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Why has the world started to mine coal again? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Metal_Zealot@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml
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With climate change looming, it seems so completely backwards to go back to using it again.

Is it coal miners pushing to keep their jobs? Fear of nuclear power? Is purely politically motivated, or are there genuinely people who believe coal is clean?

Edit, I will admit I was ignorant to the usage of coal nowadays.

Now I'm more depressed than when I posted this

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[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  • Fukushima
  • Chernobyl
  • 3-Mile Island to name a few
[–] urshanabi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to add, it also take a while to get it going and the upfront costs are several billions of dollars. There also needs to be some kind of training or something to get the right personnel.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And it’s a long project that will span multiple administrations, leading to low certainty of project completion. As long as it’s a political wedge issue the support can’t be relied upon throughout the project.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes yes, we know people don't understand statistics.

[–] SquareBear@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm looking forward to seeing your Instagram snaps once you move back to pripyat permanently. Statistics never tell the full story.

[–] Asymptote@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago

Ah yes, the clusterfuck of the 20th century is the lode stone

Also Pripyat isn't that bad.

[–] riley0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you're referring to the nukes-are-statistically-safe argument, then to be fair, you also have to take into account the scale of their failures.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Right it would be something involving number of people harmed, for number of joules or watt-hours of energy produced. How much injury, death, etc is there on a per-unit basis. That would be how you'd get a probability of harm. Then you could compare it numerically with other forms of energy to see which is the safest, statistically speaking.