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[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If they are insured, no.

Insurance premiums will go up on teslas.

Then people will buy less tesla.

Then Musk will get margin called.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Premiums going up will hurt regular people more than Musk. Hurting your fellow countrymen is such a lefty thing to do...

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It will only hurt people who continue to own Teslas when they renew their insurance. They are part of the demographic supporting Musk, so fuckem.

[–] CancerMancer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah conservatives were totally the largest market for EVs before Musk took the mask off, right? You people truly have not spent even a microsecond thinking this through.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 0 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

What? This has nothing to do with politics of the consumer. YOU haven't thought this through.

The point is to damage Musk. If you continue to use his products (rather than sell or scrap) then you are part of the problems.

This is true for cars, websites, AI, satellite connectivity etc.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

There's no one to sell to and scraping would only hurt the people. Next time try to use your brain.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This only hurts the people who own a tesla long term.

If they can't scrap or sell then an insurance write of is the best way to reclaim the value.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

There's no way to reclaim anything, only lose money.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

Tesla owners are already losing money in terms of resale value.

Money comes from an insurance write off or a second hand sale.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You don’t get to decide who uses what product and commit vandalism acts if they choose differently than you.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You would be attacking Musk. The users of the product get compensated. In fact, an insurance write off is a better financial option than the second hand market.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, you wouldn’t be attacking Musk, you are attacking random people.

If you want to attack Musk, then target his own properties, not random people’s; not that I condone violence either way.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

People are attacking Teslas future income stream.

That means they are attacking the current Tesla share price.

That means they are attacking Musk.

Normal people are compensated by insurance.

Future tesla owners will need to pay higher insurance premiums.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.

There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.

It is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.

If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

You know people can attack Tesla’s future income stream simply by not buying a Tesla.

And you can attack it even more by dissuading other people too.

There’s no need to destroy random citizens private property

There is a need if faster results are sought.

and we already established they are not made whole by insurance.

Then sell before it's vandalised.

is naive to think insurance prices will only rise for future Tesla owners.

This is how insurance works. Brands, models and even colors have different premiums.

If I disagree with something you do, that does not justify me destroying your private property.

It's not about the Tesla owner directly. It's about damaging Musk.

I should state that I am not going to damage anyone's private property, but current and future Tesla owners should be aware of the logic behind the attacks and act appropriately.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.

You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have. That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.

Besides, you tell people to sell their cars, while you acknowledge the big financial hit that would involve; who are they going to sell it to? Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 points 24 minutes ago* (last edited 23 minutes ago) (1 children)

Maybe one day you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens and only then you might change your mind.

Maybe I've already sold my Tesla and I'm no longer supporting Musk in any shape or form. I might be changing the mind of a Tesla owner currently reading this.

You do not get to dictate what cars people get to buy, nor what kind of insurance they must have.

Agreed. You are free to choose your own car along with it's associated running costs.

That is not how insurance works, premiums will go up for everyone.

It is how insurance works. If causes of risks can be directly identified and measured then they can be directly priced. Any insurer not doing so will lose business.

who are they going to sell it to?

They will have to drop the price until they find a buyer. That will affect new car sales and damage Musk further. See how this works?

Whoever buys it will also suffer from the vandalism you encourage.

Yep. For a low enough price, people may be willing to take the vandalism risk and also become a social pariah.

[–] alkbch@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 minutes ago

Again, maybe one days you will be on the receiving end of such despicable attacks on private citizens, and only then you might change your mind. It doesn’t need to be about Tesla. It doesn’t even need to be about something you agree with.

Insurance prices will rise across the board, maybe more for Tesla, but also for other brands. That is just how insurance works.

You can impact new car sales simply by encouraging people to not buy a new Tesla. You don’t need to destroy people’s private property to accomplish that goal.

You are condoning terrorism. Do better.