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[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Class reductionism is a reactionary and deeply flawed analysis. The abolition of the class system alone will not bring with it the abolition of all other injustices if if no attention is given to those.

This sort of post really brings out all the concavebrained centrists and red-brown alliance types who somehow think leftists and fascists aren't axiomatically opposed to each other, as well as the whining brocialists who are happy to oppose the hierarchies that oppress them but will throw a shitfit if anybody points out any societal problems to which they could still be contributing.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

ok so to sum it up, you're saying that not only capitalists, but men in general are also evil.

well, i guess i disagree. you're engaging in a pithole of fallacies there. consider:

class struggles lead to poverty, and poverty leads to angry people. the people lash out against one another, and that creates the social issues. fighting against capitalism means fighting against the problem's root, not just its symptoms.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 23 hours ago

I'll go easy on you here because your username implies English is not your primary language, but you should perhaps work on your reading comprehension.

Firstly:

I did not say that.

"An annoying subset of leftists has a tendency to dismiss the issues faced by workers who are not able-bodied cishet white men" ≠ "men in general are evil"

Secondly:

What fallacies? You didn't point any out, you just made a weak counterpoint.

Thirdly:

fighting against capitalism means fighting against the problem's root, not just its symptoms.

Like yeah, as a fact of how intersectionality works, capitalism does make other social injustices even worse, but racism and misogyny have existed since long before capitalism, and will not be fixed by any sort of anticapitalism that doesn't specifically work to address them.

[–] Willy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yo man, please use terms that we can understand or explain your terms

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Okay girliepop, here's your glossary:

Class reductionism is when people act as though literally all of society's problems could be boiled down to the class structure under capitalism. The class structure/class system is the relationship between the owning class (called capitalists) and the working class they exploit.

"Reactionary," put very simply, is a word that describes beliefs or actions that react to efforts to improve society in an oppositional way.

"Concavebrained" is an adjective describing someone whose brain has a dented shape to it. It means stupid.

People or groups being axiomatically opposed means that they operate under values systems and thus motivations so different from each other that they cannot work towards common goals.

"Brocialist" is a colloquial term that describes a leftist who dismisses the struggles against certain social injustices, especially those of feminists. A brocialist is basically the sort of person you'd expect to engage in class reductionism.

Hierarchies are systems that place different amounts of value on different elements. In the context of a social structures, this means treating some people as more valuable than others.

A shitfit is when someone gets really mad.