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[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Left vs right is working people vs billionaires. It is right-wing propaganda trying to deny or obfuscate that. That is why socialism is left-wing and free-market neoliberalism is right wing.

[–] nthavoc -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is no right wing propaganda in my statement. "Working people" includes the magats that got these clowns where they are now. Wtf is free-market neoliberalism being the right? I thought the extreme right were the magats. This is why everything is the way it is and proving my point. Nobody can agree on anything and everyone has their own idea of saving the world.

[–] Saint_La_Croix_Crosse@midwest.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Fascism and neoliberalism is right-wing and market based. Again, terms are purposefully obfuscated and disingenuously misused, but fascism is about privatization and deregulation (Privatisierung, in the original Nazi). While technically some working class are part of reactionary movements like MAGA, it is disproportionately either the Lumpenproletariat or not working class but what Republicans pretend is the working class (reactionary small business owners, who are working class because of some cultural marker like wearing blue jeans and liking country music or hating woke). We live in a liberal, capitalist system. So socialism is almost always, by definition, left wing and pro-capitalist and pro-billionaire politics is almost always, by definition, right-wing.

[–] nthavoc 2 points 1 day ago

When I talk about right wing on here and mention magats, I'm talking about extremely to the right. They are so far right, they found a new dimensional plane of existence right. Nazi's stole a lot of concepts that existed long before they did and corrupted them, including their symbol. The idea that capitalist concepts are the equivalent to nazi beliefs is way too far off base and that really muddies the waters. I would like to avoid Godwin's law for meaningful conversation.

Billionaires should have never existed and the people that were supposed to regulate the unchecked greed failed the public. All of these representatives and the people voting for them are absolutely the source in the billionaires' rise to power. Remove them from power and the billionaires don't get a free playground for their boredom. Red vs Blue (Right vs Left) is keeping the public fighting amongst themselves. Treat the source, not the symptoms.