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[–] missandry351@lemmings.world 27 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

When people ask me what communist country was successful I usually say all of them until cia decided to go there and spread freedom 🇺🇸🦅

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz 1 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Well... There was this thing called Soviet Union. They decided to try to speed up the transition to communism by using repression and violence. And ended up being a totalitarian state, a direct opposite of what a communist state is supposed to be like.

Of course you can argue that Soviet Union was not communist, it was just a state that had chosen to call itself communist for propaganda reasons... But still, Soviet Union is an example of a communist country that was unsuccessful as a communist project already by itself. Then came outsiders and helped make it even worse, but bad doesn't become good by some people wanting it to be even worse. Burma is another example. I'd say they hacked away their own leg before anyone else, such as CIA, had time to interfere in their business.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 hours ago

What no theory does to an mf

[–] nomoesyankho@lemmy.wtf 8 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

TheRe Was THiS THinG CallEd The SoviEt UnioN

The russians got sick of dying for the tsar during ww1. They revolted. Six months later, ww1 "ended" (between germans and british, that is) and everybody was redeployed to russia.

Of course a country that's being invaded is totalitarian, wtf do you expect?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War

[–] Dengalicious@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Maybe don’t brag about your ignorance publicly and keep your mouth shut about things you know nothing about?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

The USSR didn't "do repression and violence to speed up Communism," they had a successful revolution and established Socialism. By all accounts it was quite successful overall, but we can learn from where they erred and adapt for the future.

The only ones who believe the Soviet Union wasn't Socialist are generally Western Trots or liberals/Anarchists who already don't want the form of society Marxists want, which is a government that publicly owns its large and key industries and gradually folds in the new firms that grow to that level until the entire economy is publicly owned.

[–] Tuuktuuk@sopuli.xyz -5 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

Have you never heard of bolševiks and menševiks? What you're explaining is what menševiks wanted, but what happened was what bolševiks aimed for.

And that was inhumane horror.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 hours ago

No, the Mensheviks had a poor understanding of Historical Materialism and didn't think the Peasantry could truly be allied to the Proletariat. What I am describing is what the Bolsheviks did. To a bette extent the PRC also fulfills this.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 hours ago

Least smug shitlib