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Solution:
Motor-voting registration in all states through the DMV. You already have to prove citizenship for Real ID. Make sure everyone getting a state ID is also registered to vote.
Then you do 100% vote by mail.
Republicans: "Wait, not like that..."
It’s not that easy to get a Real ID. I struggled to get one because I’ve been moving a lot lately and they require a bunch of documents pointing to the same residential address. I was only able to get one after I settled down long enough to meet that requirement.
You need 2 documents as proof of address. So a utility bill + something else. Electric bill + phone bill. Done. Credit card + internet. Done.
They wanted 3 documents. There was a typo in the copy of my lease I was able to get (previous year) so I couldn’t use that. I was sharing a phone plan and it was under someone else’s name. Electricity and internet were included in rent.
Then you talk to your landlord and fix your lease, super easy.
I know you've recieved a lot of replies already, but the major issue with your plan is you would have to do this every election cycle. A lot of IDs get replaced between 4 and 22 years, not annually.
The way it works here is you register when getting a drivers license, then if you move or something, when you update your DL information, you update your voter registration.
Same thing for DL renewals and such.
See thats exactly what the executive order prevents. You can't be registered automatically, a person would have to provide proof of citizenship every election cycle if this gets enforced.
Proof of citizenship is part of the drivers license process now.
So you would need to renew your drivers license every single election cycle, I just explained that like 3 comments ago.
No, once you're registered, you need do nothing else unless your address changes. Just like with a normal voter registration.
Alright but thats not a solution to the problem presented, and even has little to nothing to do with the topic of this post.
The problem presented is Republicans being dicks by requiring citizenship to vote.
We already solve that problem by:
This increases voter registration (which Republicans don't want) an increases voter participation (which Republicans DEFINITELY don't want.)
Oregon had already been doing #3 since 2000, they added #1 and #2 in 2016.
Voter registration surged to 94%.
Voter participation jumped to 80%.
This is malicious compliance with what the Republicans are asking for.
Then people would need to renew their drivers license every election, sometimes multiple times per year. That's why any compliance with this shitty order a bad idea, it would lower turnout. I already told you that.
What Oregon did was automatically mail everyone a ballot unless they opted out, but under the new executive order, if enforced, that would be deemed illegal/unlawful unless each and every eligible voter registered and provided physical proof of citizenship at that time, which is logistically impossible at that scale.
I'm going to stop replying to you, enjoy sending me the last word in short order.
No, they don't, that's not the way it works.
Once you are registered, you are registered, you only have to re-register if you change your address.
If you change your address, you also have to update your drivers license and... ding... it updates your registration.
Thats not how voter registration works.
Tell me you've never registered to vote without telling me you've never registered to vote.
I've been voting since 1987 and that's EXACTLY how it works.
You register ONCE. Unless something changes, you do not have to re-register.
Your registration was being done automatically for every election. Registration is done for every election.
No, it isn't. You fill out and sign the card ONE TIME. You do not need to re-do it unless something changes.
"Does My Voter Registration Expire?
Your voter registration does not expire unless you move or change your name."
Now, it might be a good idea to update it every now and then because your signature does change over time, but that only becomes a problem if your ballot actually gets rejected and you have to cure it with a fresh signature.
Well, the problem is Republicans being dicks, which is kind of a given.
But if the country does what Oregon has been doing for years, you tie voter registration to state ID and suddenly 94% of those eligible are registered to vote, and with vote by mail, 80% are turning out.
At which point the Republicans get what they want and still have heart attacks.
Do ya one better. Make voting mandatory.
Now THAT would end the Republican party forever. And it would be an easy sell for Democrats too.
"Since our president loves democracy and voting integrity so much, let's pass a bipartisan law requiring all eligible citizens to vote or face penalties of fines and imprisonment."
Then watch the mental gymnastics of MAGAs trying to argue how mandatory voting and voting in general is a bad idea.
I don't think this is clear cut anymore. Low information voters broke very hard for Trump. Democrats have work to do to win back the average voter, but the adage of "we win when people turn out" broke in this last election.
Democrats need to get off their ass and offer something better. The fact that Trump won so handily should be a damn wake up call that they are out of touch. Republicans message sucks ass, but it still beat the hell out of Democrats. The party leadership needs an overhaul because they are floundering and trotting out these old adages excuses how piss poor they've done leading the party.
Voter turn-out was low last election. Turns out drum circles with Oprah and other Hollywood sycophants while substituting all policy discussions with "uhh...JOY and ORANGE MAN BAD!" was not a winning strategy. If everyone is forced to vote you would see a lot of odd things. Most of them not great for either Republicans or Democrats, but ultimately healthy for a liberal state.
I would hope so. I think it would be the right thing to do. But I don't think Democrats would see all the "instant landslide wins" that are talked about. I don't think they can accurately predict how that will go. I just don't buy that the average non-voter is definitely voting Democrat.
But again - we should push for it because I think it's the right thing to do, not because I think it's good strategy.
Not everyone needs a real ID, and you'd just be preventing poor citizens from voting.
A lot of people don’t have IDs or licenses, they cost money, you have to take time off of work to get them, which also costs money, and a lot of people have barriers to getting ID if they lack supporting paperwork, like a birth certificate, bills in your name to prove address, three forms if ID, etc. heck lots of people don’t even have an address at all. People who don’t have easy access to supporting paperwork, who don’t have addresses, or can’t afford fees are all allowed to vote. This cuts a lot of the most vulnerable people in the country out of the democratic process, which is why the righties are always pushing for this stuff. They’d rather that the people who stand to lose the most from right wing policies be unable to vote against those policies.