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[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 95 points 6 days ago (6 children)

This actually makes sense, once you understand what their problem is with communism.

You see, they have no problem with all the benefits that communism offers... What bothers them is the idea that those benefits would be given to people who haven't earned it.

Heaven, to them, is a reward. Only the pure, the righteous, the faithful get to enjoy its benefits. Heaven only works for them if they imagine that they will be able to look down and see hell.

A heaven for everyone, with no walls, no gates, no pitiful outcasts scrabbling to get in... That's no heaven at all.

[–] miraclerandy@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago (3 children)

You’re not wrong about the reward being earned. That’s definitely the unspoken part of it.

When I grew up religious, the conversion was that communism was a bastardization of god’s plan, so it’s inherently evil. Basically, it cannot be as pure and perfect with men in charge so it will fail every time.

You’d think they’d want to try and be more like their god and his plan for their heaven but they just reject it.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

They believe that only God can be the one to create paradise on earth. A primary pillar of their faith requires earth to be in a constant state of suffering until then.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You’re not wrong about the reward being earned. That’s definitely the unspoken part of it.

It's also heretic AF. As in: It directly contradicts Orthodox, Catholic, and Lutheran, doctrine, all for different reasons.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

Remove the heretics from Christianity, and you will have not a religion of billions of oppressors, but a cult of a few dozen communist hippies.

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Heaven only works for them if they imagine that they will be able to look down and see hell.

See, this is the part I can't get behind. An eternity of that disparity with even the smallest scrap of empathy would eventually be unending torment. Every day is just more "oh yeah, hell is a thing and I can't do anything about it..."

Fr, I knew for fact that there was something deeply fucked up about "The Good Place" in the TV show bearing the same name when Janet played Eleanor a short clip of sound from the Bad Place.

[–] seeigel@feddit.org 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Interesting read. Thank you.

[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Right wing politics can be summed up as: Exclusive & Sadism

[–] DonJefe@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

If working all your life for a regime does not earn you the benefits of that regime, I don't know what will in their minds

[–] DreamlandLividity@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

No, the issue most people have with it is that it requires a king (god) to make it work. People don't mind a higher being (god) ruling them as an absolute monarch. They do mind handing such power to a human, since we have seen again and again how such power corrupts people.