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A self-confessed ’MAGA junkie’ from a red-voting city devastated by Department of Government Efficiency firings has said she regrets voting for Donald Trump.

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[–] alphabethunter@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

One way to look at it is that these women are so used to being abused, to the point that oppression is deeply ingrained in their minds as just "the way it's supposed to be". Another way to look at it is that there are people out there who truly enjoy being submissive, and who truly think that being seen as lesser is all well and good. Truth is probably somewhere in between. However, It's a really dangerous tightrope to walk about saying that a huge majority of grown adults can't make decisions for themselves because they are literally incapable of choosing the best for themselves due to cultural manipulation. It basically debunks democracy as we know it. It makes it really hard to defend democracy when you can't fully trust the ability to make informed and educated decisions of the majority of your population, so we pretend that it's a non-issue and simply don't talk about it.

[–] wheeldawg@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

As to the "way it's supposed to be" part...

That should be obvious. Their oh-so-important Bible is all about how to trample women to be used as steps for men to climb up on.

All that stuff in church about "women shouldn't teach in church" all the way up to the ones that like the part about "women just shutting the entire fuck up" in church kinda sets the time for these women.

And on top of that they're told not to question it or rebel against it for any reason on pain of getting shot from a cannon straight to super hell.

So yeah, that part is ingrained for sure.


I do think at least some of the problem we face voting-wise are these people that are super-insulated and super-ignorant. For example, my own parents. I don't have much clue how big this specific thing is, but I know from them (and the people that I used to associate with due to being raised around them) that if you can ever get them into a discussion about it, that they won't have a defense for anything at all. They will just quote Fox News at anything. But even if you do manage to finally show enough evidence to make your point, even if you get past everything else...

Then, you will finally find out that they are single issue voters the whole time, and will do whatever mental gymnastics needed to prove that their side isn't just literal Nazis.

But really it's been focused down to one point for them, and one point only. And what is that point? Abortion. A very narrow, very near sighted version of abortion.

They really do think it's literally "killing babies", and any effort to support that at all is automatically devil work, so there's nothing else to really consider here. They don't even care about all the women who die from pregnancy-related problems. Those are just soldiers dying in the war to protect babies. Even now you can tell they don't really like the fact that they begrudgingly accept exceptions for things like ectopic situations, it clear black and white about-or-die situations. They're totally fine with pregnant women dying. As long as it's not just the fertilized cell clump that they call a human life. That mother should die with it in their view. Their job is to multiply and if they can't, they should go down with the ship.

This is at least somewhat abated in popular opinion now, but I would guess that's just a compromise they'll take to stop all the demons from killing as many as possible.

Anyway I've gotta get off this rant because I can feel my blood pressure going up, but to summarize:

Conservative women are taught to love the boot stepping on them. They're kinda in a brainwash situation I think, but they make it so much worse for themselves, and at some point I can't feel bad for them anymore.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

However, It’s a really dangerous tightrope to walk about saying that a huge majority of grown adults can’t make decisions for themselves because they are literally incapable of choosing the best for themselves due to cultural manipulation. It basically debunks democracy as we know it.

Democracy depends on an educated citizenry.

[–] CouncilOfFriends@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

There's a ton of overlap with this ideology