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[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 1 year ago (39 children)

While it sounds good on paper, in practice, they've screwed it up. They're putting the new speed limits in place on every 30mph road in Wales before they've put the public transport alternatives in place.

There's currently no reason for someone to switch to public transport, especially if the buses are going to be stuck at the same speed as the cars, but stopping regularly too. Our roads are too narrow to install bus lanes, and barely have enough room for single file traffic through lots of the towns and villages. The trains are being upgraded, but that's not scheduled to finish until at least next year, and at the moment they're slow and very unreliable. It feels like every week the trains are cancelled and an inadequate replacement bus service is put on.

I'm disabled, and have to travel from my town, Aberdare, to the main hospital in Cardiff, UHW, on a regular basis. If I had to leave now, it would take 42 minutes by car, or 2 hours and 6 minutes by public transport. The shortest journey is tomorrow morning and would take 1 hour and 31 minutes, more than double the time of the car journey. The closest inpatient hospital is 22 minutes by car, or over an hour by public transport. The difference the new speed limits are going to make is negligible compared to how slow public transport is here.

All this is going to do is annoy and upset people, and turn them off the idea of using public transport, and push a lot of people towards voting for the parties who were against this. Out of the main parties, that mainly seems to be the Conservatives, so that's going to be bad for all of us.

[–] theplanlessman@feddit.uk 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The FAQ in OP's link tells you that it is not all 30mph roads, but rather all restricted roads, with a link to a map of all 30mph roads that are staying 30mph as well as the option to see which restricted roads will change to 20mph. "Restricted Roads" is a classification of roads in law that is defined by the lamppost density, so this change won't affect larger and more rural roads where lampposts are more sparse.

[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then they've screwed up the marketing. Everything they've been pushing out makes it appear that it's all roads. Not that there's much of a difference. There's a grand total of two roads in my area, and five in the Aberdare area that will apparently stay as 30mph.

[–] grazing7264@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

I couldn't think of a better word 🙈

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then they've screwed up the marketing.

c'mon

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What’s wrong with that? Liberal governments are terrible at spreading the word about their few good policies, marketing may not be exactly the right word but we know what they meant by it

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

It's just the type of comment to be proven wrong, even admitting it, and then still not changing the position towards the policy. Things can be both marketed badly and also good

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