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Among the reciprocal tariff levels Trump announced:

China: 34%

European Union: 20%

South Korea: 25%

India: 26%

Vietnam: 46%

Taiwan: 32%

Japan: 24%

Thailand: 36%

Switzerland: 31%

Indonesia: 32%

Malaysia: 24%

Cambodia: 49%

United Kingdom: 10%

Rest of the world: 10%

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[–] EvilCartyen@feddit.dk 49 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

This is kind of hilarious in a dumb way. It's going to hit american consumers like a goddamn hammer, and will be rewarded with tariffs going the other way, and we'll all be poorer. Americans most of all.

If he keeps going like this you'll end up with stagflation - high inflation and a stagnating or recessive economy. That shit is hard to get out of, good luck.

[–] Zentron@lemm.ee 24 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

With a balooning debt to gdp ratio, its gonna get unmanagable really fast , people are too stupid to elect another FDR and US' tech dominance gap will shrink or be outright gone.

Chinese millenia is coming if its not already here

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 24 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, at this point, I think it's time to just call it a day on the very idea of the US as a single unified nation. The Constitution has been demonstrated, beyond a shadow of a doubt, to be utterly incapable of actually doing its job. It's a 200+ year old document written in a different age, by people who didn't have hundreds of examples of modern democracies to draw upon. It was a good attempt, but it's horribly obsolete at this point. And our institutions are equally not up to the task. And it was written by 13 states who each joined willingly. If you gave each state a chance to join the current US today, how many would actually do it?

We need to peacefully dissolve the whole thing. Dissolve the federal government; grant every state full independence. The states can then come together into whatever number of new nations they wish to form.

This clearly isn't working. Half the country has completely given up on the Constitution, and the other half thinks institutions and laws alone will magically fix the problem. We've crossed the Rubicon. Once a president is allowed to get away with this level of flagrant law breaking, once the courts have become this corrupted, once the system has become so sclerotic and fundamentally incapable of meeting the needs of the people? It's time to call it quits. There's no repairing a system like this. Even if free and fair elections happen, electing a Democrat in 2028 will not fix this problem. At best, we'll get 4 more years of useless waffling, and then another fascist will get elected in 2032.

The US is a couple that has reached an impasse of irreconcilable differences. The US had a good run, but at this point it's time to admit that it's run its course, and it is time to move on.

The US isn't even really a nation; it's more of an empire. There are vast regional differences in the country. The cultures and desired governments of the people in the different regions vary substantially. But because we're all locked together in this bloated dying husk of an empire, nobody is happy. There's a reason the oldest countries in the world tend to be smaller ones. Empires are held together by force, not by common culture and shared values. They tend to collapse under their own weight and contradictions eventually. And the US is no exception.

And we shouldn't mourn this. The US had a good run. It did some cool things and made some real advancements on the human story. But governments exist ultimately to serve the people. Can anyone really say with a straight face that the people of the US wouldn't be better served by breaking the US into a series of smaller, more manageable nations that better reflect the will of their people? Would all the nations that border the Mediterranean really be better off if they were still united in the Roman Empire? Would all of Latin America outside of Brazil be better off if it was all still New Spain? Would the people of Asia be happier if they were still united in some post-Mongol empire? I don't think so.

Sometimes you just need to let things die. It's time to put the United States out of its misery. We can do better.

[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 8 points 18 hours ago

This and a hundred other issues would be settled in the process of negotiating the breakup. Odds are only a handful of states would want them, as only a handful would have the economic base to support their upkeep. Nukes are expensive as hell to build and maintain. New York, California, Texas, etc. Like any divorce, you have to negotiate and find a way of dividing communal property.

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