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What makes middle school even worse? Climate anxiety. Students have big feelings about climate change. Most teachers don’t know how to help. (grist.org)
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[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"As more students come to school traumatized by living through fires, floods, and other extreme weather, teachers are being asked to do more than educate — they’re also acting as untrained therapists."

"Doomerism" isn't the issue. The issue is that kids are living through real shit and realizing that the adults around them are unable/unwilling to help/protect them when it's needed. Your suggestion to fight "doomerism" is going to appear as a continuation of that and break any remaining trust even further.

Hope can be a useful tool, but within the context of American schools it's more often a tool for gaslighting and control than meaningful change.

[–] mycelium@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'm editing this to just say, I'd rather not be the person who fights on the internet like this, I would much much rather make friends. So, thank you for taking the time to respond, I appreciate your input!

~~Doormerism is an issue, especially when it comes from adults who don't know how to help. This is trauma, and this is one tool to tackle that trauma. I'm not saying we tell kids "hey cheer up that should fix it" - I'm saying we use hope as a tool to fight cynical defeatism. Which, I would submit, is all your comment achieves. Do you have an alternative?~~

[–] SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Friends you can't disagree with and work together to come to a mutual understanding with are superficial friendships.

I'm sorry if I came on too strong, but I appreciate your initial response as It clarifies more where you're coming from.

I don't disagree that "doomerism" exists and can be a problem, however that term is often used (and from my perspective is being used in this context) to deflect from the material reality in a "rub some dirt on it, it ain't that bad" sort of way.

However, within this context the "alternative" isn't complicated. The kids, and teachers, need therapy from trained medical professionals. More broadly they need access to healthcare and resources they aren't getting.

[–] mycelium@slrpnk.net 1 points 18 hours ago

they need access to healthcare and resources they aren’t getting

Completely agree, cheers!