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[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 96 points 6 days ago (33 children)

This "both sides" is bullshit when you are getting a train run on you by the Republicans...

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 65 points 6 days ago (8 children)

And the leader of the Democrats describes his job as "keeping the left pro Israel".

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[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 35 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Interesting.

Obama dropped an average of 80 bombs per day on the ME and North Africa during his presidency. The number of civilians murdered is impossible to calculate.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

For a USAmerican(or any other person), their primary concern would be their own safety, right?

Unless they can form/support a major third party, they are forced to a two-choice system, right?

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The USA is not the world, and its citizens should start looking towards the welfare of the people their country murders.

[–] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Choosing not to participate in the two choice system is how you get a third choice btw

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

What would the steps be for that?

I'm not USAmerican, so I don't know much of the base level stuff there. I think they have a green party or so. But are they a good/distinct enough choice?

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

When both choices explicitely lead to mass murder its mandatory for any ethical person to do all they can to make some third outcome happen.

Voting quietly for what may be slightly less mass murder but certainly is still mass murder is a pathetic and shameful way to chart a course forward. A handful of us have more dignity than that.

[–] FrostBlazer@lemm.ee -3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Choosing not to participate is how you become dominated by one of the parties, possibly the one you like the least. The way to actually be able to participate is by trying to change the system itself. By that I mean changing First Past the Post voting in each state, as this is the means through which other political parties would be able to spring up. Another option is to run for government yourself as an actor for change within one of the major political parties.

Make no mistake, changing the system is possible. Alaska and Maine have both done it already. Other states can do it too. I think trying alternative voting systems such as ranked robin voting, STAR voting, score voting, or even ranked choice voting would be a major step towards other political parties and to move away from the most the least liked candidates winning elections.

I’m not sure why this was voted down, real lasting solutions require hard work and organizing to make change. Mind you, changing the system of how we vote alone isn’t the end step, but a starting place for change.

[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 19 points 6 days ago (17 children)

Are you denying that the Dems are shit? Just because the Reps are worse and currently in power?

What kind of an argument is that supposed to be?

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[–] LeGrognardOfLove@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 6 days ago

For sure, the republicans are worst.

But the dems are still not good.

Americans have no representation at all.

[–] superniceperson@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 days ago

After the train run on you by democrats...

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You really don't get it, huh?

People heard that shit last time, and they voted democrat, and Biden won. And ABSOLUTELY NOTHING changed.

At the end of the day, the rich got richer and the poor got poorer, just like they did with trump, and with Obama, and with every single president who has taken office in god knows how many decades.

And still you're here yapping "oh noes the horrors, vote Dems".

Bro, the Dems aren't LISTENING! Get a Bernie up there, or an AOC, or anyone that the people actually believe will do anything other than feeding the same interests they have been feeding.

And if you're too thick to realize that, at least you're not alone, the whole DNC is right there with you.

[–] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago

When it comes to foreign policy and making the rich richer? Absolutely. The only potential difference is on some social issues.

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