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Those windmill blades are all pointing the same direction! (slrpnk.net)

submitted 6 days ago by RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net to c/memes@slrpnk.net

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[–] Beastimus@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Ok, here's my perspective. I hate Gen-AI (specifically and solely the generative kind), I think in nearly 100% of its use cases there are more effective and more ethical solutions. Its really sketchy to me for any artist to be using or supporting AI with/in their work. My understanding is that while training the AI does take significant server farm work (on a similar scale to like, storing the data for streaming video), the actual AI model produced is relatively small, and therefore doesn't take that much energy to run. So, good on them for doing environmental work, my hangups will entirely be on the ethical side of their AI usage.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 days ago

My understanding is that while training the AI does take significant server farm work (on a similar scale to like, storing the data for streaming video), the actual AI model produced is relatively small, and therefore doesn't take that much energy to run

Yeah, you can run most models on a mildly powerful gaming computer and be able to generate images

My rig actually takes less power to Gen images than it does to run some games on Max settings

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm with you on more ethical solutions being available, but efficient? In turns of total energy usage required to go from (often unethically acquired) training data to a manifestation of a prompt as an image, maybe.

But regarding the effort and efficiency when purely generating an image? I think not.

There is a person on Lemmy running GenAI models locally (on their own machines) using solar power, and honestly, that's totally fine by me. I'm also fine with a DM generating some art for their next hombrew game they run with a couple of friends.

Acquisition of training data and the environmental impact of data centers (not only for AI usage) are still problems to be solved, though.

[–] Beastimus@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Ok, I didn't say efficient, I said effective. I said AI images are less effective than manually created ones, and I stand by that. Honestly, if that guy is sourcing his data ethically, more power to him.

[–] scrion@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Alright, that one is on me half-assing my reading. I'm with you on effectiveness.