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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Most of us don’t judge users but we are internally vocal about our own social challenges.

.ml is a big instances and people coming from the old web find such attractive, it feels like “the official one” we are well aware.

The have been attempts to advertise avoiding those but were not exactly a well coordinated organization.

Regardless the ideology of .ml and others big instances pose a problem in centralized power. Lemmy works best as many tiny servers organically building a network of content and ideas.

All of Lemmy is accessible as long as your instance is federated (almost all) however some may defederate from those problematic big ones, limiting the posts you can see.

You wont lose much by changing instance right now. There is no karma or rewards associated with your account. You can also make multiple on different instances with the same user name so you have a backup if your main instance goes down.

[–] bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why/how are big instances a problem though?

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The main problem with centralisation

If the majority of user and communities live on a the same instance, and that instance goes down or becomes to toxic to keep federated then fediverse loses a large chunk of its whole. While if it a tiny instances that dissapears only a few people and communities need to migrate.

General i also think its beneficial if the owners of an instance are the same people from the communities its hosts. The role of general use instances should be more like a backup mirror

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

One example is the lemmy.ml problem. You see the rest of the Tankie Triad is pretty widely defederated from, but lemmy.ml isn't despite doing much of the same things, just a bit more subtlety.

Because lemmy.ml is such a big instance and has a few of the biggest comms (By subscribers only, which means a bunch of dead accounts boosting the numbers, by MAUs a much different story unfolds) many instances admins are hesitant to defederate from them

Big instances carry too much power and influence and if you're a toxic instance like .ml, it can be used to basically bully other instances into remaining federated with you

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

the ideology of .ml and others big instances pose a problem in centralized power.

it's not centralized, .world is considerably bigger and way more conservative, like it even has a splinter /c/196 populated with everyone who thought neo pronouns and basic levels of respect were too hard

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

it’s not centralized, .world is considerably bigger and way more conservative, like it even has a splinter /c/196 populated with everyone who thought neo pronouns and basic levels of respect were too hard

It's funny that you still feel the need to spread this slander. Almost like you're still upset that you spent months defending a blatant troll using an old conservative canard.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

it's not that hard to have basic levels of respect for people using neo pronouns, and if they're trolling then let them slip up and get banned for that.

it's just an observed pattern of behavior that .world has a lot of cis people who misgender people when they disagree with them like it's an argument

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (49 children)

it’s not that hard to have basic levels of respect for people using neo pronouns, and if they’re trolling then let them slip up and get banned for that.

Okay? Where does that play into your slander about the .world 196 being filled with people who don't respect neopronouns?

it’s just an observed pattern of behavior that .world has a lot of cis people who misgender people when they disagree with them like it’s an argument

So now it's not the .world 196, it's .world in general.

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[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I include .world in the category “other”

For the record i am also starting to feel like sopuli is getting a bit crowded. Don’t get me wrong everyone is welcome i just think we can benefit from more independent niches and corners.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I strongly prefer having niches and area with different cultures rather than single large instances too. I just don't think people shitflinging based on peoples instance and broad stereotypes about the instance culture is a helpful behavior for any community. Yet it's extremely common for these type of two minutes hate threads because they're just baiting a response.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Lol "stereotypes"? I've got plenty of evidence right here:

From censorship, bans and bias towards their "in crowd":

https://lemmy.world/post/27674360

https://lemmy.world/post/27674117

https://lemmy.world/post/27673934

https://lemmy.world/post/27673724

https://lemmy.world/post/27577337

https://lemmy.world/post/27378634

https://lemmy.world/post/27346630

https://lemmy.world/post/27341283

https://lemmy.world/post/27288224

https://lemmy.world/post/27156418

https://lemmy.world/post/27054157

https://lemmy.world/post/27008261

To altering headlines and permitting known propaganda outlets:

https://lemmy.world/post/27428838

https://lemmy.world/post/27416097

https://lemmy.world/post/27314050

https://lemmy.world/post/27288953

That spew Russian talking points like Ukraines invasion just being a "negotiating tactic" https://lemmy.world/post/27012640

To general hostility to other instances who haven't "seen the way" yet https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

To their open declaration of support for Russia (direct from dessalines) https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

To even "concentration camps were just reeducation camps and weren't that bad https://lemmy.world/post/26985447