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[–] nrab@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

If there are multiple independent people coming in complaining about you and/or your co-maintainer, maybe the problem is you and not the whole community. Especially if your co-maintainer wears the honor of being the first person to be banned from matrix.org.

Yes, maybe. Or maybe not.

Here's what I can verify:

  • the project is indeed archived
  • the Matrix protocol specification is problematic
  • people suck

For the last point, I don't know if this particular person sucks more than others in the same community. I can see they claim that, but I can't independently verify that. I hope the Matrix community can see the constructive criticism here and fix the underlying issues, regardless of who is "right" here.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Did we read the same text file? I’m seeing none of what you’re talking about. The person who wrote this is also trans.

[–] nrab@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The fact that they’re trans does not somehow make them immune to being a bad person or from shielding bad people

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I didn’t say that. I would say it makes it much less likely though especially for someone who is openly trans and given someone who has text like “trans rights are human rights” on her web page. Of course it’s not impossible, but it would certainly be hypocritical and goes contrary to the vibe I’m getting from her.

You’re the first one who brought this up. Where is the context for what you are talking about? Which people are saying she’s a bigot?

[–] nrab@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I’m sorry, I don’t have receipts and I shouldn’t have thrown around accusations like that. I’m mentioning that because the text specifically calls out “queer”as the main reason multiple times and what I’ve heard behind the scenes, but again I should’ve just stick to what we can immediately see. I edited my comment accordingly

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Ah okay, so you know some behind the scenes info or at least more than just this. My bad, but tbh you should have lead with that because initially I thought you completely misread what the text was saying because I pretty clearly read the queer mentions as “this is not just transphobic attacks by bigots” (see my other comment). Sorry!

[–] matlag@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Really? Do you realize how many people we're talking about? This is where the idea that the human brain can't comprehend interactions with too many people.

"Multiple indepondant people" might be 5% of the people, some of them under the mob's effect (wouldn't engage alone).

Maybe we miss another point of view, but maybe we don't. This may be a screaming example of what you get as a representative of minorities getting a bit of attention.

I'm guessing it's closer to 5 people than 500. The Matrix development ecosystem can't be that large.