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  • You MUST use Apple’s own apps (iMessage, Phone, etc.) as well as Apple’s own App Store
    • To be fair, the EU is doing work to solve this particular issue…but most of the reforms are only for EU customers
  • You have to use WebKit when developing a browser for ~~macOS~~ iOS and iPadOS, you can’t use Gecko or Blink
  • iOS apps must be developed using XCode IF YOU WANT TO PUBLISH IT ON THE APP STORE, which is only available on MacOS…

~~That last one is weird. Why can’t you compile Swift outside of MacOS (i.e. third party IDEs)? Why can only XCode do it?~~

edit: Gecko and Blink based browsers are available on macOS. I learnt something new today. Not for iOS or iPadOS though. Also, Xcode is only a requirement for publishing in the App Store. You are able to compile Swift in any OS. You'll just need to distribute the app via sideloading and/or third-party app stores (in the EU)

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[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 63 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Funny enough, apples behavior was enabled by microsoft setting really shitty precedents in the 90s. oh whoops!

Seriously though microsoft was a force in the 90s and early 2000s. If you weren’t around for it you simply don’t realize how insane it was for something like computing to have come around and quickly take over the world with microsoft being the thing. you only had a pc (or maybe laptop). That pc ran windows over 90% of the time, and you used internet explorer over 90% of the time. Like I’m not making this up, IE, the worst browser of all time, peaked at 95% market share in 2002.

Nowadays edge is a minor contender but a distant third (chrome about 70%, safari about 17%, edge about 5, Firefox 2.5). Windows market share still dominates on PC but has fallen significantly from 90+% in the 1990s to 75ish% for windows 10 and falling. Plus nowadays people don’t use PCs nearly as much. I’m on a phone right now, which is the dominant computing device (and windows phone was a joke)

Anyway in true American capitalistic fashion when they had this undeniable monopoly apple was a joke at the time and Linux was for extreme hobbyists and servers and such. So what did microsoft do? Destroy competition, destroy any political machinations that could threaten their future with hefty lobbying, destroy open standards in favor of their own proprietary bullshit, etc. Europe attempted some antitrust stuff against them similar to what is happening to google now (to forcefully break off IE from windows) but it was unsuccessful

So when you’re frustrated about the fact that tech does not play nice together? Does not adhere to open standards, forces proprietary bullshit on you, open displays anti competitive and anti consumer behavior? Blame microsoft and politicians that were grossly ignorant to a rapidly changing world (although to be fair you don’t have to be a tech genius to understand that computers being forced to work with each other and have transparency in how they work is beneficial)

And the next time you see some dork praising bill gates for being the “cool billionaire” because he has a charity remember that his wealth is built on these destructive practices. He lead microsoft through this period and this doesn’t even touch on how he destroyed countless businesses that dared to compete by leveraging the size of his company (eg draining their resources with lawsuits) rather than competing fair and square.

He personally fucked the landscape of technological advancement for generations on top of that because he had the arrogance to think that microsoft knew how best to handle it. Now it’s blown up and he doesn’t care because he got his bag. His charity is the same problem: he holds his wealth and decides what causes are worthwhile, like a king. Fuck him, and fuck all the technocrats that have no sense of ethics aside from “make me more money and do whatever I want”.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago

windows phone was a joke

No. It was leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else. They just sat on their hands and didn't do anything with it, allowing Google, RiM and Apple to steamroll them.

And to blame Microsoft (which -- don't get me wrong -- is hugely evil and truly is the cause behind many of the problems you properly identify) for all of the tech problems without a hat tip to IBM is missing some important details. IBM showed the tech world that if you use your war chest to drag out a legal battle long enough, you will eventually get a president in power (Reagan) that you own enough to dismiss all claims. That's how Microsoft got off without even a fine for all their antitrust violations. They played the long game and George W. waved a hand, making the enforcement effort go away.

[–] scheep@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

woah ms did a lot of things

[–] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

tldr: if Apple does something bad, blame Microsoft?

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

at no point did I deny apples practices are shitty and anti consumer

but the history of how we got here is that microsoft spent time lobbying hard to make sure that companies like apple could do exactly what they are doing

apple is far from the only one who does it as well? Basically every modern tech giant flexes their anti consumer muscle every day. the one defense of apple is that you can basically avoid their shit by not buying it, as opposed to a company like google who are actively vying to utilize their extreme dominance in browser market share to change the internet forever to make adblocking impossible (very similar to 90s microsoft behavior)

Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it, etc etc

Sorry you were challenged to read what was roughly 3/4 of a page. Maybe this is more digestible for you

[–] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Don't get me wrong, I have no problem blaming both Apple and Microsoft. Corporations are not my friends 😁