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I didn't like the statements regarding Trump either, but he deleted it and made some comment/post on reddit distancing himself from Trump and right wing politics. So I made peace with that, but yeah, people won't forget.
Not sure why people care so much, the individual can think whatever he wants, it hasn't stopped proton from continuing on its good path (even though I don't use them much nowadays, they are a great service with a respectable free tier).
Trust in a product can be weaponized.
Also, as a Roman, I would never trust a Swiss. Call it genetic memory.
EDIT: apparently Proton was once more useful, this time to Musk.
That article is stupid. Any company that receives a "legally binding order" has to comply with it.. what would you expect?
Most companies aren't going to commit a crime to protect a user (like that one dude who ran an email service and destroyed it when he was required to hand over data, forgot his name!!!!). If they did, they'd be out of business...
(The article isn't exactly dumb, but it doesn't address this properly in my opinion. The outrage over it seems dumb to me. The government will force companies to do whatever it wants, be mad at the gov not the corpo in this case when its to apprehend a journalist or whatever.. i understand if its a terrorist or similar, but this specific case may be more poopy om the gov behalf)
If you had nothing, as you said you would have, you would have nothing to provide to the authorities.
This is exactly what happened with Mullvad: https://www.theverge.com/2023/4/21/23692580/mullvad-vpn-raid-sweden-police
I know that this may be a requirement in Switzerland, that is why I would not use a Swiss product in the first place.
I don't think a vpn and mail providers can relate in this scenario.
I have heard in the past that authorities have forced (possibly proton, but I forget) to basically wiretap incoming mail before proton can encrypt it for storage on the users account (because pretty much no one sends encrypted mail in a way that only the receiver can read it).
The only data other than that, that they store is ip logs (when forced to, I believe) and recovery email addresses. They are not able to present existing encrypted mail to authorities (from before a wiretap).
This seems overblown, I don't think theres more they can do. Users have to start sending encrypted mail from their inbox, then the wiretapping won't be an issue (proton address to proton address can work like this I think).