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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago (13 children)

It's extremely impressive. A domestic chip on a 7nm process. That's equivalent to Android flagships of three years ago with the Snapdragon 865, in terms of the manufacturing process. To only be three years behind, after all the sanctions and doing everything yourself, it's incredible.

[–] StugStig@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (12 children)

The Kirin 9000S is only 2% larger than the original 9000, which was made using TSMC 5nm. It performs far better than any 7nm chip.

CPU Performance almost matches the 4nm Exynos 2200, which because the 2300 was a no show is the best chip Samsung has.

GPU Performance although not a match for the original 9000 still exceeds the 5nm Snapdragon 888.

Geek Bench 5 Multi/Single core Scores

Geekerwan Review of the Kirin 9000S, with English subtitles

Source of the SD 865 relative performance charts

[–] prismaTK@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

That’s nuts how far ahead Apple is: these are all recent chips at the A13 came out in 2019

[–] StugStig@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't help that Qualcomm's 888, and 8 Gen 1 were a disappointment. Even more so since they were the debut of ARM's Cortex-X series of performance cores. Those were supposed to be ARM's attempt at matching Apple's custom cores. Thermal throttling issues meant that they weren't even real upgrades from the 865 in terms of sustained performance.

The original Kirin 9000 was from 2020. Hard to improve performance, if the US government is doing everything to hinder your ability to make chips in the first place. Huawei matching the original TSMC 5nm EUV chip with just SMIC 7nm DUV is a miracle.

[–] prismaTK@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh yeah - this is not to undermine Huawei’s achievement here which is absolutely incredible. I just think the choice of putting the A13 as the newest apple chip on a chart with modern chips is an interesting one

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