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[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not how federation or open source works.

And the overwhelming majority of Lemmy's active users are not tankies and have no interest in tankie degeneracy.

I am not upset. I am just stating facts, tankies and leftists are not the same thing.

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Federation and open source provide a significant reduction in the barrier to someone making their own instance or their own federated network, with whatever modifications they want to implement. That is definitely something you could take advantage of. Federation and open source are not really related to an existing culture in an already thriving social network still being present in some form after you joined.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If you want a forum where only tankies are allowed, then don't develop your solution on a federated protocol. It's as simple as that.

Tankie scum culture is largely not tolerated across Lemmy. No sane person wants to hear degenerate rambling about how Stalin was a good guy, denial of russian atrocities committed in Ukraine, denial of giant number of Ukrainians held horrible conditions in internment and praise for Putin (who is not even a communist).

Don't try to hide behind "existing culture" with your "discrimination against tankies" rehortic.

When you act like scum (some of the worst), be prepared to be called scum.

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

If you want a forum where only tankies are allowed, then don't develop your solution on a federated protocol.

I don't how you read that from what I wrote, I just think it's silly to complain that they are allowed here.

I joined lemmy five or six years ago because I really believe in federated networks. I've definitely learned a bit since then but I'm still not an expert on any of the politics. I can say with confidence though that the devs are well-meaning and their beliefs are sincere, so when you dismiss them as pro-genocide scum it gives me the impression that you've never engaged seriously with the ideas. And if you want to prioritze avoiding sincere proponents of those ideas, there are a lot of networks not maintained by advocates that will give you a much easier time. Staying on the one significant social network built out of those beliefs seems counterintuitive here.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t how you read that from what I wrote, I just think it’s silly to complain that they are allowed here.

Would you say the same about neo-nazis? Let's a KKK instance on join-lemmy? You think that's fine?

so when you dismiss them as pro-genocide scum it gives me the impression that you’ve never engaged seriously with the ideas.

Don't play dumb. I've been on Lemmy long enough to know their position.

There were many examples, but aoe particularly stupid discussion was with a tankie trying to explain to me (a Ukrainian) that Ukrainian language in actually not prosecuted in the occupied territories. His reasoning was that in Chechnya locals can use Chechen in addition to russian.

Tankie scum wish harm to me, my family and fellow citizens (while not knowing Ukrainian or russians and never having lived here). Of course I am going to wish them a grizzly death.

Staying on the one significant social network built out of those beliefs seems counterintuitive here.

Tankies are minority. It's not counter intuitive to want a relatively small group of tankie degenerates to be isolated in federated forum system.

My man, that's exactly what a decentralized, federated network is (you should know this).

As supporter of genocide you should consider joining another network, as you are not welcome here!

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Would you say the same about neo-nazis? Let’s a KKK instance on join-lemmy? You think that’s fine?

Three or four years ago wolfballs was a neo-nazi instance that was immediately delisted. But more to the point, if the developers were nazis then yes, I would think it's silly to continue to participate in the community while complaining about it and cursing their names rather than not using it. Even on a federated network, if it's developed by open nazis I would not have an expectation that we'll get rid of the nazi problem and I should keep contributing. Incidentally that's actually why I started ditching the corporate social networks I was on fifteen years ago in the first place.

Don’t play dumb. I’ve been on Lemmy long enough to know their position.

I had never even heard the term "tankie" before joining. The developers posted a lot in the community before it got overwhelmed by redditors a couple years ago. Somehow I missed all of their advocacy for genocide.

[–] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world -3 points 12 hours ago

Somehow I missed all of their advocacy for genocide.

Masks off I see.

I am done here.