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https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/1561101820520448001

he was at the scene and saw it happen (see link below)

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I'm no fan of Dugin or National Bolshevik Party or whatever the heck his ideology is these days, but I do think the extent to which he's called "Putin's Brain" is really exaggerated. I wonder if the car bomb was meant for him.

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[–] 4zi@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (4 children)

who is dugin? is he basically behind the patsoc thing? i know nothing about him and am going off of cursory google searches

[–] Thomas_Dankara@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Pasting from wikipedia here:

He was the main organizer of the National Bolshevik Front, the Eurasia Party and, together with Eduard Limonov, their forerunner, the National Bolshevik Party, which was banned by a Russian court in 2005. He also served as an advisor to the State Duma speaker Gennadiy Seleznyov[20] and a leading member of the ruling United Russia party, Sergey Naryshkin.[21] He was the head of the Department of Sociology of International Relations at Moscow State University from 2009 to 2014, losing the position due to backlash over comments regarding Ukrainians.[22] Dugin is the author of more than 30 books, among them Foundations of Geopolitics (1997) and The Fourth Political Theory (2009).

The comments Dugin made were in the wake of this event: https://www.dw.com/en/the-odessa-file-what-happened-on-may-2-2014/a-18425200


Dugin's comments that got him fired (in Russian):

"Вот эти погибшие герои в доме профсоюзов, они уже решение своё сделали. Они пали за свободу Юго-Востока Украины от неонацисткой киевской мрази. Я думаю что Украинцем сегодня быть, честно говоря, после этого, я сам украинец, вы знаете? У меня есть… У меня предки из Полтавы. Мне стыдно. Просто мне стыдно за ту, но всё же существенную часть своей крови. Я хочу чтоб эта кровь была очищена кровью мрази, киевской хунты, и я на самом деле не могу носить в себе эту украинскую кровь пока я не увижу казнённых ублюдков творивших беззаконие 2-го мая. Это серьёзно.

Фразы "Украинцев нужно убивать, убивать и убивать" на видео нет, это вброс. Реальная стенограмма:"Вот эти погибшие герои в доме профсоюзов, они уже решение своё сделали. Они пали за свободу Юго-Востока Украины от неонацисткой киевской мрази. Я думаю что Украинцем сегодня быть, честно говоря, после этого, я сам украинец, вы знаете? У меня есть… У меня предки из Полтавы. Мне стыдно. Просто мне стыдно за ту, но всё же существенную часть своей крови. Я хочу чтоб эта кровь была очищена кровью мрази, киевской хунты, и я на самом деле не могу носить в себе эту украинскую кровь пока я не увижу казнённых ублюдков творивших беззаконие 2-го мая. Это серьёзно.

Это голос крови. На самом деле я бы не шутил с такими вещами. И я полагаю что никакого права эта гадина на какую-то западную украинскую государственность с центром Киевом. Я понимаю что Юго-Восток не будет никогда в этом ублюдочном государстве. Но никакого права эти люди контролировать даже западную Украину не имеют. И им, пока они на земле, пока всё зло что мы видим творится, никто спокойно спать не будет. Поэтому на самом деле только нормальные люди должны править эти прекрасным, на самом деле, некогда прекрасным украинским народом, это замечательной страной, с которой нас связывает всё. Просто пока Киев, пока в Киеве гниды, на самом деле, русский человек, человек который родом из киевской Руси, это наши корни, спокойно существовать не может. Либо действительно надо стереть с лица земли и заново построить, либо на самом деле люди должны придти в себя. Я думаю что в Украине, необходимо тотальное, на всех её территориях, на всех её областях, народное восстание.

Вооружённое восстание против хунты. Не только на Юго-Востоке. Иначе, ведь тоже самое может произойти в Ужгороде, а русинов уже оккупировали такие же молодцы, оккупировали русинский дом где они собрались для решения своих совершенно спокойных проблем. Тоже самое уже нависло над венграми, в Подкарпатской Руси, над русскими, над всеми, на самом деле. Так и над Украинцами. Помните ведь над кем издевался Саня Билый, покойный? Над такими же украинцами как он, на самом деле это совершенно не какие-то инородцы. И что он начал творить? Его остановили. Но сейчас пришли ещё более страшные люди, — мы не видели зверств Сани Билого, он просто за галстук потаскал какого-то, очень безобразная была сцена. Но то что мы видим 2-го мая, это уже выходит за все пределы. И я думаю убивать, убивать и убивать. Больше разговоров никаких не должно быть. Как профессор я так считаю.

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AI Translation:

"These fallen heroes in the house of trade unions, they have already made their decision. They fell for the freedom of the South-East of Ukraine from the neo-Nazi Kiev scum. I think that Ukrainian today to be, frankly, after that, I myself am Ukrainian, you know? I have… I have ancestors from Poltava. I'm ashamed. I'm just ashamed of that, but still a significant part of my blood. I want this blood to be purified of the blood of the scum, the Kiev junta, and I really cannot carry this Ukrainian blood in me until I see the executed bastards who committed lawlessness on May 2nd. This is serious.

It's the voice of blood. In fact, I wouldn't joke with such things. And I believe that these bastards have no right to some western Ukrainian statehood with the center of Kiev. I understand that the South-East will never be in this bastard state. But these people have no right to control even western Ukraine. And for them, as long as they are on the ground, as long as all the evil that we see is happening, no one will sleep peacefully. Therefore, in fact, only normal people should rule these beautiful, in fact, once beautiful Ukrainian people, this is a wonderful country with which everything connects us. It's just that as long as Kiev, while there are nits in Kiev, in fact, a Russian person, a person who comes from Kievan Rus, these are our roots, cannot exist peacefully. Either it really needs to be wiped off the face of the earth and rebuilt, or in fact people have to come to their senses. I think that in Ukraine, a total popular uprising is needed in all its territories, in all its regions.

An armed uprising against the junta. Not just in the Southeast. Otherwise, because the same thing can happen in Uzhgorod, and the Rusyns have already been occupied by the same young people, occupied the Ruthenian house where they gathered to solve their completely calm problems. The same thing is already hanging over the Hungarians, in Subcarpathian Rus, over the Russians, over everyone, in fact. So it is with ukrainians. Remember who Sanya Bily, the late, mocked? Over Ukrainians like him, in fact, these are not some foreigners at all. And what did he start doing? He was stopped. But now even more terrible people have come – we did not see the atrocities of Sani Bilogo, he just dragged some kind of tie, it was a very ugly scene. But what we're seeing on May 2nd is beyond the pale. And I think to kill, kill and kill. There should be no more talk. As a professor, I think so.

[–] 4zi@hexbear.net 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So he’s the ‘fiscally conservative socially liberal’ meme but flipped?

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 1 points 2 years ago

like a conservative who believes "Communism for me, but not for thee" like it's fucking weird. It ideologically doesn't make any sense nor can it work in real world conditions, yet some folks - in the void caused by the fall of the USSR - cling onto it as a possible viable alternative to the current state of Russia. Instead of actually turning back to communism weird enough.

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