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How about people who need a camera to create their art? Are they less of an artist than a painter?
I'm sick and tried of people re-hashing a discussion that has been settled for almost two centuries. Yes, photography can be art. There's art in how you use the tool. Not all people making photographs are artists or are even out to create art, and then it isn't art, and that's also fine. Why are people having such an issue applying the same to AI as a tool, saying not "Your shit sucks because it's AI" but "Your shit sucks because you're a hack".
Cameraman is an artist, he does way better than ai piss bro to master his art genre.
It's 2025 and you don't know why AI sucks? At this point all I can recommend for you is to ask ai about it, you had time to develop critical thinking.
How about using AI-assisted tool in creating your art?
I'm a professional underwater photographer who teaches the subject at a university as a side job. I teach my students to hover underwater on scuba without stirring up the bottom to get the perfect shots. They're having to control their buoyancy, adjust camera settings and lighting, frame their shots, and more. It's extremely difficult, detailed work to get an underwater photo.
Does the fact they use lightroom and AI de-noising filters invalidate all that work?
Technical aside all generative AI is denoising. At least all diffusion models, don't really know the tech behind the rest.
Models made for generation will be able to denoise complete noise, reading things into it, but will also be able to only denoise a little bit. Models made for denoising might lack the capacity and training for a complete denoise to be faster, but ultimately it's still the same technology.
Is everyone who ever took generative AI for a spin an "AI piss bro"?
I won't, for a millisecond, deny that there's a fuckton of AI piss bros who wouldn't be able to see artistic intent if it kicked them in the head. They write a random prompt, hit "generate" and declare it art, and yes of course that's all thoughtless garbage. But it's also perfectly possible to take thoughtless photographs, that doesn't mean that all photographs are thoughtless garbage, or all photographers "photography piss bros".
So you can more confidently dismiss me as an ai piss bro, I presume. Certainly would make not engaging with the argument easier.