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[–] Juliee@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

With your definitions everything becomes an art. Even painting your walls and baking bread hence it must be incorrect definition as obviously not everything is an art. There is a difference between craft and an art. You can be a good crafter of nsfw images but that doesn’t mean you are an artist.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Craft is about objective, not subjective, choice. Craft is saying "The wall of this mug needs to be thicker or I won't have enough clay to trim the surface smooth". Art is saying "I'd like to do some more experiments with copper inclusions, they tickle my aesthetic sense". Sorry I watched a lot of Florian Gadsby lately.

The creation of a bread recipe often involves art, it is a conversation between your personal taste and the medium. Figuring out how to bake 100 of those a day in a reliable, reproducible manner, is craft. Different bakers land on different points on that spectrum. It's no different with goon artists, but they probably all have created a recipe or two.

[–] Juliee@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree with that. I think my definition is superior

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

And I think 99.999% of music played in clubs is boring because I'm not interested in the exploration of the emotional motifs that they do. Doesn't mean that it's not art, that they're not doing any exploration, though, even though there's large amounts of formulaic slop. It means that most DJs aren't Boris Brejcha. And even with how good he is, due to setting, audience, he's no French 79, Aphex Twin, you name it.

My definition accounts for all that nuance, any particular work can be various degrees of art and craft and the 100th bread that our baker bakes from their own artful recipe is no less of a piece of art than Andy Warhol's 100th print of the same thing.