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[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just because the world is shitty the way it is, it doesn't mean that it has to stay that way.

And just because you personally benefits from the injustice of the broken system, it doesn't mean you shouldn't oppose it.

That's the part of the movie's message I feel that people tend to miss.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Most people just don't care enough to do anything about injustice, or don't think about it at all. It's infuriating to see how apathetic and irresponsible people can be. Just look at the meat industry. People could stop, but they don't. They only care that their virtue is signalled and that the suffering is far enough detached and out of sight so that they don't have to face it and actually self-reflect on their cognitive dissonance or flaws. What's worse is that eating meat is often culturally engrained, and so similar to religious indoctrination, even harder to quit. All this, done by years of lobbying of the meat industry and other unethical practices. These problems of injustice are deep-rooted in our society, and entitlement/lack of empathy. The arguments used for factory farming these days are the same slavers used in the past, and even now it is just transferred elsewhere so that people can be exploited all for a cheaper product to consume.

Things get even sadder when you realise that all the injustice in the world is for nothing but ego or extreme selfishness. I honestly think it's a large reason people still believe in religion. When you face the injustice in the world and become aware of it, you either have to ignore it/find a way to cope or actually do something. As long as people remain ignorant, uneducated and don't have empathy for others, this will continue.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem here is that you're attributing to apathy what should be attributed to the shit show people are dealing with already. Life is so grand, that we need 2 full-time working parents to get by, and barely keep head above the water. People aren't apathetic, they're drowning. That's the whole purpose behind it. If people are too busy trying to just stay alive, how are they supposed to also fight for justice?

That's why the only people who are generally fighting for this justice are those that are middle to upper class with plenty of free time. Because nobody else has the god damn time. They could lose everything they worked for just by joining the fight. The system has been set up that way.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Fight for yourself? Or is that also impossible? People don't know the power they have together, and the elites won't give up peacefully. Most western people could do something, they just don't want to or are ignorant of how they could act. The only real problem is that capitalists who control everything will try to stomp out any organisation of things (such as unions or protests), which is why force and/or non-cooperation is needed.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did you even read what I said...People can't fight because they can barely fucking survive.

[–] ThePenitentOne@discuss.online 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just not true though. Anything to not be accountable or responsible, I guess. You would only need max 1% of the population anyway. Most people won't stand in your way, and if you have food + a place to live you are good enough for the downtime.

[–] thantik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one that's playing in theater right now that I can't promote because of the strike.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Oh hey, I missed your name. I liked the movie but was disappointed that the Kens were treated with dismissal at the end, told they don't get representation in the new government, which felt like a squandered opportunity to convey a message of true equality and inclusion. It seemed to me that the message was that inequality is okay, as long as it's your group benefitting from it. But you're saying the movie's message is the exact opposite. Can you clarify why for me please?

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It's more realistic to show that "systematic inequality cannot be overturned overnight even if slight improvements have been made." Not a fantasy happily-ever-after ending, because that's how the real world works.

Also, our protagonist actively choosing to refuse to participate in the unfair system at the end despite benefiting from it should have been a clear message that it wasn't something to be accepted.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I hadn't considered her refusal to participate as part of the message before, but you're right! Thanks for sharing that perspective. I had a nagging feeling that I was missing something, and that was it. Excellent job taking such a silly idea and using it to share a serious message, all wrapped up in goofy antics and fun.