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I mean, it kinds seems inevitable to me. Books has become e-books. Cash is becoming digital transfers. China has done it. The west is mostly doing card-swipes. One day, that transition will be complete, and cash would be phased out.

What happens then? Think like the power outage in Spain recently. Some people had cash. But in 20-40 years. There might not even be any cash in existence. What then?

What if, instead of a few hours, its a few days? Or weeks?

I guess riots break out all around the world?

(Seriously, has none of the politicians ever thought about this? Where are the backups? Are we just going full "YOLO" on the reliance on the power grid?)

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[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

What happens when an abused person has to escape a partner/parent who controls all the money? Where do they go, what food and board are they getting?

How do small traders set up garage sales and marketer stands, especially if they don't want to give cuts of their money to corporate giants Eftpos and Visa?

How do those with impulsively/memory issues (such as ADHD, dementia, and teenagers) manage the abstraction of their money, leading them to accidentally overspending/overdrafts?

How do you spot a stranger in need a bus fare home?

How do we support the street artists and buskers?

....I don't like the idea of cashless. My country already uses eftpos and visa as the norm (so ofc we all pay those overseas companies their fees). But while wide accepting of the card is good and useful, true cashless has issues of usability. It's not just 'something something government tracking spending'.

Vulnerable people fall through the gaps, and it means people make a lot more consumer transactions and a lot fewer personal ones.

[–] theblips@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Cards destroyed so many lives but if you say it out loud people think you're a tin foil hat nutjob

[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Cards themselves have been very useful. They're much lighter and harder to steal money than carrying hundreds in cash in your pockets.

It's cashless that is a concern, not the existence of cards.

[–] throwawayacc0430@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The answer is: We're fucked.

People were warned of mass surveillance, and here we are, cameras everywhere, over the entire world. Everything is tracked. Same thing will happen to paper money and coins.

[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 1 points 2 hours ago

Cash is expensive for stores to manage, count, and sort. That's the actual reason they want it gone, not tracking. Sure, we're being tracked, but that's not the point. Thanks to our phones, our personal lives have already been completely disseminated.

Cashless is about making things easier for businesses that struggle with handling cash. A cashless society acts like consuming goods from those businesses is the only reason money exists, and that's wrong.