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Ohio deputy killed by father of 18-year-old fatally shot by police a day earlier
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 04 May 2025
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The kid stole a car, and then was running away and pointing his loaded gun at the police when they shot him.
Allegedly. I don't know that it won't turn out, in the end, that it was actually his car, and it was a sandwich, and the officer involved had been fired from 3 departments and the cops lied about everything, and so on. But usually making sense of the world by just picking in advance who are the good guys and bad guys, and applying that to every single situation regardless of who's involved or what the details are, is a bad way to go.
Perhaps if police would more often be held accountable in a fair justice system, people wouldnt be so easily swayed to say they 'had it coming'.
Who's one cop in the last three years who's done something fucked up and not gotten charged for it?
I actually know of one. The prosecutor charged him and the state governor overrode the charges because he was a Republican. I don't know of another.
Up until about 2020, the police could get away with fucked up stuff, and then after BLM the system changed substantially, and as far as I can tell the left is still steaming forward with the narrative that it is 2014 and no one ever gets charged for anything. I would be a little bit surprised if you can name a couple of cops who have gotten away with stuff since 2020, but if you can, I would bet that I can name 5 cops that have gotten charges for every one that you can name that got away with it.
It's the pendulum theory. Things were real fucked up for a long time, cops could just straight-up kill people or beat the fuck out of them for no reason and nothing happened because they were cops. And now, the pendulum of public opinion has swung all the way to the other side, and the cops are always guilty and always pieces of shit if something happens, even if someone was actively trying to kill them or someone else when it happened.
I already know I am not going to change your mind on this, and I'm actually not into having a long debate about it right now. I am just stating my opinion. I also know nothing about the facts of this case beyond what the cops have claimed. I am just saying that usually this blanket "these people are ALWAYS BAD, NO EXCEPTIONS, AND I WILL GET ANGRY IF YOU DISAGREE" that doesn't need any factual input about the situation is a warning sign to watch out for, in your thinking.
"Charges" are a start. How many can you name who suffered the usual penalty for killing someone?
All convicted this year. If you want to look at an incomplete list just of the ones that were convicted or plead guilty after being charged, going back into the past, there is one here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_law_enforcement_officers_convicted_for_an_on-duty_killing_in_the_United_States
Maybe a more fair way to estimate is to look at the number of high-profile cases where, clearly, something terrible had happened, and then see what percentage of those involved charges for the cops. Tyre Nichols is the only one recently that I am aware of, and the cops got charges.
Before 2020, that percentage was way too low. After, as far as I know, it is a clear majority of the time. It should be 100%, but it's not. But if you talk to Lemmy, then the number is 0%, and that's just clearly objectively wrong.
Edit: 2020 not 2000