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Like y'all keep posting about it, praising it, giving it free advertisement, and what not.

But the dev is a fascist, the discord server is a fascist bar, and the project thus is fascist.

I've met people who were harassed, I browsed through now deleted messages of Vaxry using slurrs and more.

So I wonder is if the people who post constantly about it know and are complicit, or just don't know and would act otherwise?

It gets tiring to see the project be given "fame" when I know the roots of the plants are founded in toxicity & abuse.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

What other well supported wayland tiled window managers are out there with smooth animations? I would check them out for sure, but I only know about hyprland.

[–] iltg@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i'm not on wayland so i can't try any of these, but there are lists you can browse from (https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Wayland#Compositors for example)

you are setting quite restrictive and arbitrary limits

well supported

what do you mean?

with smooth animations

what counts as "smooth animations"?

if your message boils down to "something which looks really good to me and that has a discord i can go into and ask for help", you may have set the requirements tight enough to only include hyprland, but that's not a valid excuse in my opinion to avoid boycotting problematic developers

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I agree they're restrictive and arbitrary reasons and they're also the reasons every single hyprland user has for chosing it. You have a different set of arbitrary reasons for setting your system up the way you like. It's called a "preference".

In order to fulfill this preference, is it ok for me to fork hyprland and call it something else? Or do I need to rewrite hyprland's functionality from scratch and pretend it was all my idea? Can I reference hyprland during the rewrite or does it need to be clean room? Should i make a fork available for people who disapprove of the hyprland devs? But what if I'm not a good enough person? Oof, just noticing, i forgot to check the ideologies of each maintainer of the thousands of packages in my system.

I think it's possible that the boycott idea makes more sense in a capitalist setting than a communist one. The reason we stop supporting JK Rowling or Chick-Fil-A is because being a customer directly translates to their success and thus the success of their ideology. But no one is making a profit from developing and maintaining a Linux package. In fact, typically the more people use your package, the more thankless work falls on you.

I'm simply interested in having control over my PC, and the FOSS community exists to exchange learnings and code to enable each other to do that. And like all of science throughout history, there are problematic people who contribute useful ideas, and I think we would be cutting off our own noses to reject those ideas just because they come from people we otherwise disagree with.

[–] iltg@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

preference is s weak motivation honestly. i prefer google maps yet i still don't want google and make do with OSM

I'm simply interested in having control over my PC

but you don't, you still depend on vaxry. can you maintain, update, fix and recompile hyprland yourself? if so, fork it and start boycotting vaxry. if not, what control are you talking about? it's just preference

this whole argument to me sounds like "i prefer a WM with smooth animations and an active discord so im going to overlook the problematic maintainer im going to give clout to and start depending on"

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 hours ago

i prefer google maps yet i still don't want google and make do with OSM

Do you see the important difference between your example of preference and mine? My preference is a specific set of features, yours is a specific product.

fork it

Hah, I felt I already poked a dozen holes in that position. If you'd like to actually back up your position, I welcome it.

and an active discord

You keep bringing up their discord like that's relevant to me. It's not.

im going to overlook the problematic maintainer im going to give clout to

Yeah, I'm fully convinced you didn't read my previous comment. For the record, I'm not downvoting you because I disagree with you, I think it's valid to criticize others in the community for their behaviour, and I respect that. I'm going to downvote you because you're not contributing to the discussion.

[–] F04118F@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago

I've heard of SwayFX, but it's pretty niche and I doubt it comes close to the featureset of Hyprland