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I guess to be fair I was never really a stickler for any particular method; I’m just a lot more open to a lot of them.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 63 points 5 days ago (8 children)

Here's the thing. Trump is just a poster boy. The real problems will continue long after he's dead. There will be further assholes. Trump is a puppet. The string puller will last on.

We need to address the core root, not the symptoms.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't disagree, but Trump is definitely a unifying figure for MAGA. Hopefully when he's gone there will be in-fighting among different MAGA factions trying to enact their own agendas and will cause fragmentation and irrelevance for many of them.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I can see that. Vance will be one. DeSantos will be another. Musk might even get in on it.

If I were Hillary Clinton, I'd just troll them, and run as a republican.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

Remember that Hillary and Bill told Trump to run, believing he would be easy to defeat. They donated to his campaign in 2016

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

I agree. I think Trump’s real purpose is to just take the heat for a lot of unpopular policies and he’s just too dumb and narcissistic to realize it.

It will be interesting to see how MAGA changes after he’s gone.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's become very apparent that the puppet poster-boy is a very critical piece to the puzzle, and for some fucking reason, he's an effective one.

[–] Dagamant@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

He is like a pustule. The disease is underneath and around the area but squeezing it empty will be a huge relief and afterward the healing will accelerate

[–] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

The rot will definitely still be there, but the power vacuum Trump will leave behind is going to massive. Not only that, but a lot of Republicans are just spineless opportunists and not hardcore ideologues, and they may see it as an opportunity to push back against the nutjobs who have taken over the party.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Both. Let's address both. Like a proper system of healthcare would.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

If that's true, that's okay. You just get rid of puppets until they run out.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not a viable long term strategy unfortunately. European anarchist found that out the hard way

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

which ones did they get rid of?

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

A lot, but notable political figures are Archduke Franz Ferdinand, Tsar Alexander II, Sadi Carnot (president of France), Antonio Cánovas del Castillo (Spanish prime minister), Empress Elisabeth of Austria-Hungary, King Umberto of Italy, U.S. President William Mckinley (anarchism debated here), King Carlos I of Portugal, Spanish Prime Minister Josè Canalejas, and King George I of Greece. All within roughly 60 years. They also killed plenty of unnamed bourgeois throughout the years.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works -1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

those are not even from the same country. it's unrelated incidents.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Also, these are all able to be traced back to anarchist movements? This is the first I'm ever hearing that.

[–] lurch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not all, but some.

I wouldn't call any of them a puppet of a string puller who would just install the next, even if we'd say the puppeteer is an elite group. But it's a question of definition where a shadow government ends and a regular political party starts.

[–] supernight52@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

That's my point- they're claiming all of them are anarchy motivated, but that's patently false.