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I'll have you know I despise trump.
Oh, but since you brought up good faith. In response to simply asking for a source, you attacked my character, tried to gaslight me into thinking I'm in the wrong, and then tried to move the topic into private DMs so nobody else can see it and so you can look like the adult here. This wasn't even a real offer though, because nobody is going to politely DM you after getting their character attacked out of nowhere like that.
The fact that you're not willing to publicly show your source about the things you're claiming in bold are empirical facts tells me that you don't actually have a source, and are in fact the one not engaging in good faith.
This thread is so bad faith it’s not even funny. And you expect me to what, educate you on basic neuroscience and sociology? No.
Hello, I am not this entire thread. I am only two, now three, comments in this thread. Do not blame me for the things other people have said.
Literally all I did was ask you for a single source to your claim which sounded very exaggerated to me, and you have since called me uneducated, unreasonable, irrational, maga, and an animal. Meanwhile I haven't attacked you a single time.
Who's the one arguing in bad faith again? Be serious.
No, I expected you to give me literally a single source, which you said you have. That's it. Shouldn't be hard.
You took issue with the claim that 90% of people are bad at moral reasoning.
Ask yourself if your reaction would be the same if I had claimed that 90% of people are bad at mathematical reasoning.
I hope not, since that’s uncontroversial, despite the fact that the average person studies math for 12+ years (not counting college).
Now why on earth would we expect moral reasoning to be any different? We don’t. In fact, it’s much much worse. In mathematics, we get to operate within painstakingly established formal systems, such as number theory. By contrast, most people never even learn how to syllogize an ethical argument!
We don’t have ethics coursework in middle school (except for religious pseudo-bigotry) and most students never get to study basics like first-order logic. They get their morals from McDonalds commercials and Disney and parents and whatever random scraps of cultural information they encounter in the gutters of our society.
People are MUCH worse at moral reasoning than at mathematics, and 90% was an absurd understatement on my part.