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That illustration is bonkers
this guy, use his stuff a lot
Ah so you’re consistently choosing to make us horny!!!
I saw some people were quite mad about the thing we are now joking about on bsky.
Specifically about the pivot to AI art??? I gotta know…
The one a bit iffy big boobed bald robot was pointed at as a 'stop doing this', as in a bit of a (understandable, not that I totally agree, do think we should he more careful. And it would be bad if all it was was 'unsexy' male and 'sexy' robots which it doesnt seem to be (see women sleeping on robot image from a while back) some less heteronormativity would he nice however, bring out the biker bear bots) streak they now seemingly not want to see bald robot women re ai/robots ever again. So it was more the final drop and an example than people being really mad at pivot.
I didn't point out that the other similar robot wasnt bald but head dread cables. (I didnt interact at all iirc, might have liked an post) because I know might be a hot button issue as well (esp in the usa, and well im not American, so not my place to even tell how much of an issue it even would be, and it would just be more oil). Prob for the best nobody linked the thread here in those comments.
E: not saying this to pick a fight, so please don't go searching for the thread etc. Esp as we all prob agree for 99% with each other and it is just squabbling over the importance of the final 1%, and I'm not, nor should any of you be Rutger Bergman (For context, he started blocking people who quote tweeted him and agreed a bit too aggressively, so much for building coalitions. Enjoy your EA but Dutch organization).
I didn't see that thread. But I stand by the image as being perfect for the story on several specific points.
Yeah, the image was quite tame and I don't think we should ban all female robots, I do agree with the point that there are too many conventionally attractive bald female coded robots being used as imagery next to robots, but I also don't think we should overreact and remove them all. Not like pivot has not used a lot of other robot images, including Rosey. And part of the problem pivot is talking about is that the pro robot/ai people see robots/ai as doing the roles beneath them (ai as maid/nurse/secretary), so an image like that while being critical also fits. And it also is just part of the American cartoon artstyle the Russian artist is going for. It was just a small badly timed thread on bsky anyway (as it was at the same time as the other guy here), lets not make a big thing out of it.
sounds dumb as hell and I'm not surprised they avoided tagging me in then
Oh. I mean there certainly are good points to be made about this sort of thing (lack of representation of a diversity of body types is probably the most correct one to think of). That one guy phrased his concern with such a specific mix of virtue signalling and horn-dogging that it had to be called out. And it was so specific that I wanted to know if other people were saying the same thing.
I stand by my opinion that the art we were talking about wasn’t particularly sexy. You could validly argue that there was objectification of women going on in the art (a woman coded robot is literally an objectified woman) but that wasn’t what that one guy was saying. Women of all shapes and sizes exist! They can be as sexy or unsexy as they want! A woman existing in a picture doesn’t automatically make the picture sexy, unless you’re a gooner-pilled moron. And in general we shouldn’t be commenting on women’s bodies where it isn’t appropriate.
But anyway, powering up my homespun BeefGPT to find those specific skeets, you can’t stop me 😡😡😡
Yes, I agree, and the point of the bsky thread was that all AI/robot stories get a picture with a conventionally attractive bald woman. Which is bad. Which is a bit different than the 'why do you want me to fuck your cartoon?' thing (even if it prob came from a similar place, it is very annoying that this is often the default robot body (or worse, the default female robot body, while the male one is Bender (see also this specific artist for pivot))).
E: Counterpoint (but wtf is up with that description 'womens emotions'?)
cool cool.
Wait what this looks exactly like the art in the dentist office I go to. They have superheroes doing dental things, like Catwoman aggressively using their nails to pick at her teeth lol. Is this person near Seattle do you know?
See Pop art and Roy Lichtenstein.
I think the guy's in Russia! It's a pretty common style.