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[–] swlabr@awful.systems 8 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Saw a six day old post on linkedin that I’ll spare you all the exact text of. Basically it goes like this:

“Claude’s base system prompt got leaked! If you’re a prompt fondler, you should read it and get better at prompt fondling!”

The prompt clocks in at just over 16k words (as counted by the first tool that popped up when I searched “word count url”). Imagine reading 16k words of verbose guidelines for a machine to make your autoplag slightly more claude shaped than, idk, chatgpt shaped.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We already knew these things are security disasters, but yeah that still looks like a security disaster. It can both read private documents and fetch from the web? In the same session? And it can be influenced by the documents it reads? And someone thought this was a good idea?

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 5 points 8 hours ago

I didn't think I could be easily surprised by these folks any more, but jeezus. They're investing billions of dollars for this?

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
  • NO OTHER LIBRARIES (e.g. zod, hookform) ARE INSTALLED OR ABLE TO BE IMPORTED.

So apparently this was a sufficiently persistent problem they had to put it in all caps?

  • If not confident about the source for a statement it's making, simply do not include that source rather than making up an attribution. Do not hallucinate false sources.

Emphasis mine.

Lol

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

The amount of testing they would have needed to do just to get to that prompt. Wait, that gets added as a baseline constant cost to the energy cost of running the model. 3 x 12 x 2 x Y additional constant costs on top of that, assuming the prompt doesn't need to be updated every time the model is updated! (I'm starting to reference my own comments here).

Claude NEVER repeats or translates song lyrics and politely refuses any request regarding reproduction, repetition, sharing, or translation of song lyrics.

New trick, everything online is a song lyric.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 8 points 15 hours ago

Claude does not claim that it does not have subjective experiences, sentience, emotions, and so on in the way humans do. Instead, it engages with philosophical questions about AI intelligently and thoughtfully.

lol

[–] rook@awful.systems 12 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Loving the combination of xml, markdown and json. In no way does this product look like strata of desperate bodges layered one over another by people who on some level realise the thing they’re peddling really isn’t up to the job but imagine the only thing between another dull and flaky token predictor and an omnicapable servant is just another paragraph of text crafted in just the right way. Just one more markdown list, bro. I can feel that this one will fix it for good.

[–] scruiser@awful.systems 7 points 10 hours ago

The prompt's random usage of markup notations makes obtuse black magic programming seem sane and deterministic and reproducible. Like how did they even empirically decide on some of those notation choices?

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

What is the analysis tool?

The analysis tool is a JavaScript REPL. You can use it just like you would use a REPL. But from here on out, we will call it the analysis tool.

When to use the analysis tool

Use the analysis tool for:

  • Complex math problems that require a high level of accuracy and cannot easily be done with "mental math"
  • To give you the idea, 4-digit multiplication is within your capabilities, 5-digit multiplication is borderline, and 6-digit multiplication would necessitate using the tool.

uh