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The whole claim to having a "right" to exist on conquered land is kind of a weird one, philosophically.
If it's legitimate to acquire territory through conquest, then there's no debate that the land belongs to the Palestinians. But, consequently, if conquest is a legitimate means of acquiring territory, then the Israelis are not doing anything different in acquiring the land than the Muslims did when they first conquered Palestine and established their colony there.
On the other hand, maybe conquest is not a legitimate means of acquiring territory and the Israelis are in the wrong for trying to gain land that way. But if that's true, that conquest is not a legitimate means of acquiring territory, then the Muslim conquerors who took Palestine in the first place were also in the wrong and their claim to the territory is similarly illegitimate.
Lot of mental gymnastic there. The ottoman no longer rule the land. Israel is the current occupier of palestinians. Palestinians are decendent of the cananites and was arabized they are not colonizers like you claim
That's a hot take, I'm interested to see how that works out for you.
I always debate with myself whether it's worthwhile to weigh in on these things because no matter what opinion you have there's a group of very opinionated people who will disagree with you, despite not being involved in the conflict and having no personal stake in the outcome.
All I'll say on the matter is: are we not passed the point of killing eachother for land/resources? No? Alright then.
Wow you are missing a lot of history, over a dozen civilizations had that land before the Palestinians. Why does it not belong to them?
Before the Palestinians? Who do you think Palestinians are? Do you think they're a new group of people that took the land recently? Different groups of come into conquer the region but the residents were still them. That's how migration waves work. Especially in this region considering mostly it's not people settling in the area it's just people ruling the area from afar. Hell they are a Semitic people.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Palestine
None of your points are true, maybe read some history first.
You honestly think the residents of the area were entirely purged every time a new power conquered the land?
Ah yes, the crusades where they just asked Muslims nicely to become catholic, without murdering most of them. At one point palestine was majority catholic.
Or the ottomans, known for their hospitality.
Lol, that's a lot of words when "I don't know what I'm talking about" is so much more succinct.
Given you're attacking someone's character right now in another thread, your response is somewhat hilarious. Go back to cooking, being a chef doesn't require much intelligence. Clearly.
That's precisely the point. If the Palestinians have the right to the land because they were the most recent conquerors, then what happens when the next conquerer comes, claiming the same right of conquest?
Palestinians was colonized by many civilization including the ottoman and now israel. Palestinians are not conquerors
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_conquest_of_the_Levant