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[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

people mistake cronyism for capitalism all the time. the free market can't be said to have failed if it was never free in the first place. it's like saying a tree has failed after it's been cut down and turned into an unstable table.

[–] Badass_panda@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Cronyism and capitalism are hardly mutually exclusive... the idea of an entirely free market is a non sequitur, as without limitations on the market, individuals within it can take control over it, rendering it non free.

[–] MrBusinessMan@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Let me clear this up, speaking as a capitalist. I make oodles of money and then I pay off people and help my cronies, my cronies help me make more money. That is how a free market and capitalism works and it is working great for me. Frankly I'm offended and aghast at the idea that you don't want it to be that way, what are you suggesting? Some sort of regulations to stop me from paying whoever I want to do whatever I want? You sound like a fucking communist!

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as “cronyism” it’s literally just capitalism.

You’ve realised it’s flaws and try to pass off that problem as something different, it’s not.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Cronyism can happen under any system. you just see what it's done to capitalism and say "See? this is capitalism"

Anyone who thinks communism has never been tried is making the exact same argument.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago

You’re really not making the same argument, because even China and the USSR didn’t call themselves communist.