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little L liberals support every struggle for freedom except the current one.
I have no idea what people expect resistance to systematic displacement, imprisonment, discrimination, and murder to look like. If waving some flags and a few kindly worded speeches would have been enough then the 100 prior years was plenty of time for it to do that. At a certain point it becomes kill your attacker or die. Let's not forget who the aggressors are.
Shit sucks, but there aren't exactly innocents in an active colonisation and genocide program.
Gaza had peace before Oct 7, although heavily policed border control because of suicide bombers coming out and rocket parts going in.
And the Jews had peace in the Warsaw ghetto, right?
Fucking lying arse zios man.
Jews in Warsaw didn't have billions of dollars in international aid like Gazans did. Gazans did not go hungry. They had peace except for retaliation when they fired rockets into Israel. What other disruptions of peace were there?
Try to be civil. Bullying to get your way does not work online. And in real life bullying leads to the tragic war in Gaza.
That is so utterly fucking wrong, you disgusting Zionist.
Go look at any of the settler attacks on villages over the years where they frequently murder innocent families to steal their land.
Go look at all the cases of IDF abuses and indiscriminate killings.
Better yet, take the fucking UNs word if you don’t value mine:
https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties
I will endure your thuggish language. West Bank settlers is another story and I agree there is much injustice there which even left wing Israelis are opposed to. Jewish settlers in Gaza were ejected in 2005.
I am not going searching that website for examples of violence which was not in retaliation for a Palestinian rocket attack or storming of the border. If you can point me to examples I will read.
Deeply unserious.
my fam was in the resistance in wwii
they attacked railways stations, police stations, military bases, sabotaged military operations. Their targets were the authority who were the occupiers
they didn't attack a village and burn children to death
So firstly the invasion of France (assuming you mean French capital R resistance? not like the Warsaw uprising or whatever?) was not a program where the French nationals were split into disconnected areas while German nationals took their land. That sort of displacement was basically only done by German military and government in order to set up their occupation infrastructure.
Secondly the occupation of France was quite short, and during an active was so comparing the circumstances directly is a bit misleading. What did early Palestinian resistance look like?
Thirdly, and I think this is quite key, the French resistance did a shitload of absolutely horrifying stuff and discussions of the right to resist usually point this out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_resist
The unfortunate reality is that resistance is ugly and chaotic, that the moral responsibility lies with oppressors to not oppress, and not turn their citizens into targets by involving them in oppression and carrying out acts in their name, and it is the responsibility of citizens to avoid claiming fruits of such programs such as land and resources.
Well Israel isn't the resistance, Israel is the invader. So of course they're going to attack villages and burn children to death.
I don't think children were burned to death. That was a false claim by some old Israeli guy which was debunked.
However your approval of burning children is disturbing.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/4/23/child-among-at-least-10-killed-in-israeli-attack-on-school-shelter-in-gaza
They very clearly have, this was the first result of many such instances of them routinely doing so.
Take your Zionism elsewhere mate.
I said no children were burned by Hamas on October 7. Seegoon was talking about Oct 7.
You’re right, some of us do.
But it’s very clearly not your Zio biased arse.
Why don't you name disruptions of peace pre Oct 7 instead of calling me names?
Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a self governing state in the Levant. Not all Zionists are expansionist.
Where would you expect Jews to go?
Jews aren't going anywhere, neither are Palestinians. That is our starting point. Wishing it was otherwise is pointless.
They can go the same place they went after Rhodesia was destroyed; Stay in the new more fair and equal country or leave.
Only racists promote ethno-states, there is no need for a state for every ethnicity.
Israel is not Jewish people, I fail to see how Israel no longer existing affects the living conditions of a Jew in Melbourne, but that truth hurts your antisemitic attempt to link all Jewish people to the war crimes committed by Israel.
Anti Semitism can arise again. Conspiracy theorists have been scapegoating Jews for centuries.
There are literally Nazis in Melbourne. That is why there was a law made a couple of years ago to prevent Nazi salutes. It is contained for now but it is not guaranteed as safe in the future. Jews in Melbourne would gladly use Israel as sanctuary if their life depended on it.
But all of this is purely academic. Jews are not leaving Israel whether you think they should or not. And Palestinians are not leaving Gaza whether Trump thinks they should or not.
Hey look literally Nazis in Israel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrol_36
You are a racist, lying, history revising Zionist. Everything you've said is so logically flawed and easily countered by example that you have to be intentionally acting this obtuse. I am done with you now.
You provide irrelevant links and insults but cannot answer my question:
So "easily countered by example" and yet you don't give one. You are done because you have nothing to offer but hate (which is in line with the mysoginy and homophobia of Hamas).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deir_Yassin_massacre