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[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

It's not pressure under the wings, it's fucking Bernoulli sucking on top of them.

(So, yes, sure, it is gay, but it's not fake.)

[–] Rivalarrival 1 points 13 minutes ago (1 children)

The absolute maximum that Bernoulli can suck is 14.7PSI at sea level. Not even your mother can generate a greater vacuum.

There is no fundamental limit to the pressure that can be generated under the wing.

With sufficient thrust and proper angle of attack, a brick can produce sufficient pressure underneath it to generate lift.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 8 minutes ago

Fair enough, yet unless I'm mistaken most planes don't rely on people throwing bricks at them (which would be quite risky anyway, for unless they throw them faster than escape velocity they're bound to come back down eventually).

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Actually, I studied aviation in university. It's literally just magic.

[–] redhorsejacket@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When you nut, but Bernoulli keep sucking...

"goofy plane"

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

I'm 100% convinced this was never a battle of airframes and manufacturers and simply was down to: "No, sir/ma'am, I will not fly the derpy plane into combat. Can't do it. YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE REST OF THE PILOTS WILL LAUGH AT ME"

[–] Salamand 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

But then how can they fly upside down?

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 3 points 19 hours ago

A fighter jet is basically a fancy dart, and darts dgaf about gravity

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Flaps. (As in, the hinged bits at the back edge of the wings, that essentially change the shape of the wing as required, not by flapping the wings; that'd be an ornithopter, as in Dune, not a plane.)

[–] Salamand 1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

But... right-side-up, the plane fights gravity, has upward lift, according to Bernoulli principle. And even if we angle the flaps to decrease altitude, it's still not dropping like a rock, the wings still generate lots of upward lift.

400 ton plane, wings w 400 ton lift = flight

Now (before engaging flaps) those same wings upside down would be generating downward "lift" PLUS pull of gravity. So now the 400 ton plane is like an 800 ton plane. Can the flaps alone lift that? Or, said another way, if we gave the plane flat wings, no Bernoulli, and stacked another plane on top of it (to make 800 tons), could it fly right-side-up just using flaps?

[–] ExtraPartsLeft@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm not a geologist, but I think the planes that typically fly upside down, are significantly lighter than 400 tons.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

Because air doesn't give a fuck about gravity