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[โ€“] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

To your last point: By that logic you could argue that no one should be able to get compensated for their skills in an open marketplace. The actors and athletes get paid a lot because someone is willing to pay that money, and they are willing because only a miniscule part of humankind has exceptional skills/talent. Most people are average in every way.

[โ€“] irmoz@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

By that logic you could argue that no one should be able to get compensated for their skills in an open marketplace.

That doesn't seem to track, to me. Maybe it would be better if the huge amounts of money generated by films were shared more equitably among the cast and crew?

The actors and athletes get paid a lot because someone is willing to pay that money, and they are willing because only a miniscule part of humankind has exceptional skills/talent. Most people are average in every way.

This assumes that these people are indeed genuinely exceptional, in some sort of superhuman way. Do you think the selection process for actors and athletes is both extensive and foolproof enough that you can guarantee that all and only the best and most talented people in the world get recognition? I know for sure that, for example, there are plenty of amazing musicians out there that haven't even crossed the radar of any music agencies. Surely the same is true of actors and athletes. No, the majority of actors working today are the result of nepotism and a narrow focus on what counts as talent - are the camera workers not talented? The people making the sets? The costume designers? Etc etc.

By that logic you could argue that no one should be able to get compensated for their skills in an open marketplace.

I mean, nationalising all industries and creating minimum/maximum wages is a fairly standard left-wing policy template.

[โ€“] comfy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Putting resources into things simply because someone is willing to pay money for it is a huge problem in our world. Once we put a dent in poverty and other existential crises, then let's consider paying people millions and billions for simply entertaining people with skills and talent. Entertainment, arts and culture are certainly important, but their industrialization and overemphasis under capitalism comes at a very real cost, both to their art and entertainment itself, and to the rest of society.

Here's a related hill: I am for the abolition of the professional sports industry. Focus on local competitions, actual participation and sports that encourage socially-useful skills, like the Firemen's Olympics and its modern siblings.

[โ€“] theparadox@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The actors and athletes get paid a lot because someone is willing to pay that money, and they are willing because only a miniscule part of humankind has exceptional skills/talent.

I see. So you are saying that every CEO is paid what they are worth?

[โ€“] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz -4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

By definition yes. Their worth is determined by negotiation between the company and the employee.

[โ€“] theparadox@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

And there are no other external factors that could possibly influence their compensation besides their objective "worth" to the hiring organization?

Edit: To clarify, might personal bias from the employer lead to a higher compensation? If two CEOs are interviewed and one went to the same college as several members of the board, or if several members of the board know one personally, but the known CEO isn't as accomplished... is it possible that the CEO benefitting from bias is going be hired? Will the benefitting CEO receive a lower compensation, higher compensation, or the same compensation?

Is it possible for a CEO to lie about their ability and get hired under false pretenses? Is it possible for a CEO to be hired for political or "public image" reasons rather than talent/productivity reasons? Are these reflected in their compensation?