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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 11 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

It’s wild how Lemmy gamers and others treat Steam as if it’s a noble corporation and Gabe is THEIR billionaire so he can’t possibly be bad. The fact that he’s a billionaire is proof that he underpaid and stole from everyone below him. There are no good billionaires, and Gabe is not your friend

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 35 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, it's hard to hate on someone who pays his people well, gives fun benefits, cultivates chill working culture and is overall simply a chill guy and whose big, fat marketshare comes from actually working for the customer.

Yeah. He could probably pay better or give more of his wealth into the society. Hell, prolly even should. But the fact is that among anyone else with that title, Gabe looks like a goddamn saint.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He’s anti union, valve employees aren’t allowed to unionize. Also seems cool with making money off all the games made by studios who are also underpaying and over working employees

[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago

Anti union sucks. But about money - yeah, Steam is a game selling platform. If they tried to avoid selling games by studios underpaying their workers, they'd evolve into indie game selling platform. Most AAA studios underpay folk, do they not?

[–] Rose@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] Demdaru@lemmy.world 2 points 35 minutes ago

First of all, admittedly, watched half of it. But also I don't see the point. Yeah, they have problems coming from their structure, but these seem kinda miniscule compared to any other game company. I mean come on, people looking up to more experienced colleagues for advice was shown there as a problem "because they have more to say". Or the bias in hiring...that even ex employees seem to understand that it simply happened due to their requirements about experience and such. The video was informative, but...pretty much shortly after mentioning what they aim for when hiring, one could easily foresee most of consequences.

Although damn, the pressure with these must feel enormous. And also...they really seem to say a lot of it up front so where's problem?

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

He could direct his company to stop targeting kids with addictive gambling mechanics and looking the other way regarding grey-market resellers.

[–] SnortsGarlicPowder@lemmy.zip 2 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 25 minutes ago)

Valve doesn't make money from keys on the grey market. Only on games bought through Steam, what do you want them to do?

Valve are the pioneers of lootboxes. No denying that.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 16 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

it's almost as if there may be room for something in between love and hate, black and white, good and evil

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 58 minutes ago

OMG GET OUT OF HERE

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Is a killer a good person? Isn’t there a line to cross before you become bad? If you reached billionaire status you left the moral line far behind

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

that's a good way of thinking when you are 6.., by puberty you should have realized it's not that black and white

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 0 points 59 minutes ago

The fact that you wrote this with just vibes makes me love Gabe that much more. I'm finding that the best past in life is to reject whatever the fuck you all are selling since you're all so out of touch with reality.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

But yet he might be one of the beat billionaires in the pool of filth.

Nicest guy in prison

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 0 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The fact that he is a billionaire does not mean that lol. He’s a billionaire because his company gets a cut of every sale of games on his platform, and his platform is the industry standard/default platform for digital distribution. He could be paying his employees a million a year to be a janitor and he’d still be a billionaire, no “stealing” and not one being underpaid.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you. Great example he don’t care about us? He is anti union and refuses to let his employees unionize to ask for better conditions. They’re also raking in money on all these games that are also being made on the backs and labor of underpaid workers

[–] FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 6 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Stop defending billionaires, they don’t care about you.

I'm not "defending billionaires", I'm correcting misinformation and rubbish. Of course Gabe doesn't care about us, I never said he did.

Just because he is a billionaire doesn't mean that he exploited, underpaid, or stole from anyone. He's a billionaire because he created the only fish in a huge pond that everyone throws money into hand over fist. Like I said, he could be paying everyone there a million dollars a year and he'd still be a billionaire because he OWNS the company. It's not a publicly traded company, it's private. He owns it.

They’re also raking in money on all these games that are also being made on the backs and labor of underpaid workers

That's got nothing to do with him. He built a marketplace and tools for people to distribute and use in their games. The working conditions of people making the games that are then sold on his marketplace has nothing to do with him.