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The direct US post WWII foreign intervention kill count is at around 8M right now (Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Syria), and that's not counting the mass killings it has orchestrated indirectly, like the genocide in Indonesia in the 60s and the genocide in Guatemala in the 80s, and the killing of the Kurds in Turkey in the 90s, and the killing of people of Timor from the 70s through the 90s, and of course the current ongoing genocide in Gaza, and so on and so forth. Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, the US' impact on the world has been absolutely devastating, and claiming otherwise is outright ahistorical.
I know, I'm not claiming that, and nor is OOP.
Supporting states like Russia just because they oppose the U.S hegemony is wrong.
Ah yeah fair enough, I completely read past that, my bad. To say that the US is responsible for the Pakistan-China border dispute would be silly. But to ignore the influence of NATO expansion on the illegal invasion of Ukraine, as foreign policy experts have been predicting since the late 90s, would also be silly.
Facts like "the number of people killed by x military" are always listed as a range because we don't know precise numbers. Combining multiple conflicts should give a wide range for number of deaths. Anything that says 8 million is likely a poor source.
I added the middles of the ranges, some sources go as high as 12M for the total. When someone says 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust, do you also raise this objection? Or just when it's about the good guys doing the killing