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[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You probably think no one wants to hear it when they disagree, but more likely what works for you doesn't work for everyone. As the person replying to you exemplified. There isn't a one trick for everyone in these kinda of things, and anyone who claims there is is either ignorant or scamming.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Or most people haven't tried it and are incredulous that it works and can't imagine life without the food noise and cravings

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Easy way to prove it; show us the peer reviewed scientific studies. There's been times when almost everyone has been wrong, and what proved it was the scientific method.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not familiar with much research on food noise as a topic by itself.

However you may find this paper on the power of sugar addiction in rats Intense Sweetness Surpasses Cocaine Reward - 2007

Our findings clearly demonstrate that intense sweetness can surpass cocaine reward, even in drug-sensitized and -addicted individuals. We speculate that the addictive potential of intense sweetness results from an inborn hypersensitivity to sweet tastants. In most mammals, including rats and humans, sweet receptors evolved in ancestral environments poor in sugars and are thus not adapted to high concentrations of sweet tastants. The supranormal stimulation of these receptors by sugar-rich diets, such as those now widely available in modern societies, would generate a supranormal reward signal in the brain, with the potential to override self-control mechanisms and thus to lead to addiction.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

An interesting flaw with the sugar studies with rats is that it required limiting the amount of sugar available. They did act like addicts when the sugar was presented to them intermittently then taken away, but when they had full free access to it, they no longer binged on it and didn't have addictive traits. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4361030/#%3A%7E%3Atext=Rats+with+ad+libitum+access%2Cand+by+avidity+for+alcohol.

Because of this, some suggest the studies are actually arguments against hyper limited diets, instead of in support. Part of an argument on that is that it's harder for us keep up something we dislike for a long period of time, whereas making smaller changes we can adapt to keeps our enjoyment and can still change behavior over time.

Anecdotal: I stopped drinking soda, cut down on sweets and juice etc a while ago(10-15 years?). I still have sweets from time to time, but the general feeling is I feel many things are too sweet, and I prefer lighter sweetness. I still like it somewhat, but soda tastes like syrup, and I generally just feel like less, but I don't exclude it completely or anything.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 12 hours ago

Its interesting you bring up the limitation, it seems that most of the "calorie reduced" food studies on animals are actually intermittent fasting studies

Glad to see you have had success giving up soda!