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I grew up with working class guys and my adult life with tech folks. I know of very few guys who want woman to dress more modestly and they are all a type of uber nerd and I think in all cases were super religious as well. Then again none of them would wear a tie without it being mandatory. Heck I barely tolerate wearing clothes in general except to protect from inclement weather.

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[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Harder to see boobs in a nonsexual context when you don't have any, don't live with someone who has them, or if you do they don't pull em out nonsexually very often.

Can't just go to the bar and say "hey can I buy you a drink? So listen I want someone to come back to my house and bring their boobs out in a nonsexual manner so I can do some exposure therapy and stop being horni cause boobage- Hey wait where are you going?!"

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

It isn't that hard though. Go to a nudist retreat or beach, practice figure drawing (there are plenty of free online figure drawing resources), look at medical indexes, watch medical documentaries, just off the top of my head.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

None in my area and traveling takes time and money, I can barely draw a smiley face, and medical stuff freaks me out I can't watch those surgery shows or horror movies (I like horror, but not that kind). I prefer KOTH, True Crime, Documentaries, Planet Earth style stuff, KOTH again, Hogan's Heroes, etc. The closest I can get to those surgery shows is MASH.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

You don't have to be good at drawing actually! The point of that sort of stuff (drawing people, still life, etc) is to develop drawing skills.

There are straight up indexes of photos of peoples breasts not presented sexually, if medical stuff squicks you out.

I'm just trying to suggest things because it seems like what you're describing might make it harder to interact with women as people and might make women uncomfortable, and if that is something you want to fix there are avenues for doing that.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I have no problem interacting with women as people, I guess I'm just kinda weird and think that sexuality (even straight people) is actually just a normal part of the human experience, and it's normal to be attracted to people sometimes. I have it on good authority that some women get horny from looking at my hands/forearms, so I'm assuming it happens to them too even if those are different body parts than specifically boobs.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Hey I'm not trying to tell you it isn't normal to be attracted to people, lord knows I'd be a hypocrite. It just seems like you're describing a learned behavior associated with the sphere of attraction that might make women uncomfortable. I know one of the replies to your comments mentioned being so uncomfortable by men doing it that they thought about getting a cosmetic mastectomy.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Learned or not, I like boobs, and frankly that shouldn't make someone uncomfortable. Some people like feet, some like forearms and hands, some like backs, some like beards, some prefer green eyes to blue, some like height, some like butts, being attracted to stuff is just kinda a thing that happens to everyone (well maybe unless you're ace but I think even some of them experience physical attraction just without the desire to act on it). All that is fine, and boobs are too. Whether or not those women "learned" to like arms or were "born" liking arms is frankly inconsequential imo, I find it acceptable for them to be attracted to arms, and boobs are no different. Hell, some women are attracted to boobs themselves, is it bad when they do it as well, or is it only bad when men are attracted to boobs? What about being attracted to other things than boobs? If I like that cute ski slope nose some women have, is that bad too?

Someone being made uncomfortable (not my comment btw) by attraction to their boobs sounds more like their personal dysphoria to me, not that being attracted to boobs is an immoral thing to do. I happen to be flattered by women liking my forearms, but if I wasn't and wanted to chop them off at the elbow simply because women say they like them, that'd clearly be more of a "me" problem than a "woman shouldn't like arms" problem. They of course should be free to seek any gender affirming surgery they wish, but their uncomfortability shouldn't be the arbiter of whether or not it's acceptable to be attracted to something for the entirety of society. What if some woman out there likes people being attracted to her boobs, would she then be the arbiter of attraction morality or do they have to fight to the death on a balance beam with giant qtips while The Chronicles of Narnia Battle Theme plays to see who gets to decide?

It's not like I'm running around honking hooters without consent all day or anything, if that's the impression you got from "I like boobs and think being attracted to things is ok to do." Assault is bad, but attraction != assault.

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Hell, some women are attracted to boobs themselves, is it bad when they do it as well, or is it only bad when men are attracted to boobs?

I really like boobs too. But I don't get distracted by them in normal non-sexual situations. The issue isn't being attracted, it is the gaze.

I think you're kind of being dismissive of what that commenter is saying. It is really uncomfortable being looked at like that.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Define "gaze." I'm sure you've taken a gander at someone (any gender) you find attractive before, does that count as "gaze?" There's a difference between staring, looking, glancing, "checking someone out," etc. "Staring" is of course a problem, but it's always a problem not just when there's boobs involved, typically met with a "the fuck you looking at?" when men stare at other men, nobody likes that. I don't "stare," but I 100% have checked people out before, as has that commenter I'm sure, and you too, it's natural.

I occasionally wear 4" inseam work out shorts (they have a liner, but don't leave too much to the imagination iykwim) and I've 100% "caught" (idc but I've seen it) multiple women "gazing" (checking me out) at my shorts when I do, this isn't a thing only men do, it's a universal experience. We can pretend only men feel physical attraction and look at it, but we both know it isn't true.

I'm not minimizing that person's experience, I just think it speaks to something else more than it speaks to whether or not being attracted to something, or even checking people out, is bad, exclusive to men, a problem, etc. Don't stare but checking people out is normal.