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https://xcancel.com/GazaFFlotilla/status/1931706070470418675#m

https://www.france24.com/en/middle-east/20250608-israel-orders-military-block-aid-flotilla-carrying-greta-thunberg-gaza-freedom-flotilla-coalition-madleen

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/6/4/madleen-gaza-flotilla-live-greta-thunberg-activists-to-arrive-on-june-7?update=3759913

https://xcancel.com/GazaFFlotilla/status/1931694144378007864#m

https://xcancel.com/GazaFFlotilla/status/1931692514572128639#m

The video on the tweet says that they are 24 hours from reaching Gaza and that Israel has started to jam the ships communication signals. That they are expecting to be attacked or intercepted.

The "Israel Minister of Defense" Israel Katz instructed the Israel Forces to prevent the ship from reaching Gaza.

Madleen is the ship carrying Greta Thunberg.

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[–] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It'd be the first time they kill someone the average Westerner has heard about

[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

But it's still like... I'm imagining the news tomorrow morning, in the timeline where she's killed.

"GRETA THUNBERG DEAD" news organizations will post — but they'll beat around the bush as for how exactly she lost her life, maybe they'll even find a "copspeak" way of phrasing it so that it sounds like she was actually killed by Hamas instead of Zionists, if you aren't reading too carefully. Algorithms on key social media platforms will also — Completely Mysteriously — not give the story due attention. On Facebook I expect a lot of "care" reactions or people changing their profile pictures "in solidarity". Some Zionist or climate-change-denying boomers on social media will say she "had it coming", but most people will instead just say that it's "tragic" she died. Palestinian organizations will release statements acknowledging her martyrdom, many others will talk about how Greta Thunberg impacted their lives, and how the fame she gained as a teenage girl activist is inspiring. Politicians in the West will shame the Zionist Entity and threaten sanctions, if even that, but will back out of any actual sanctions at the last minute. And soon enough, Greta Thunberg's image will be flanderized and lib-washed, and she'll simply join the canon of people who boomers will share "motivational quotes" of on Facebook.

...But it won't actually amount to much. Maybe some more attendance at protests, or some more awareness, for a time — but most of the people who only care about issues once they start killing famous Westerners, already want Greta Thunberg to drop dead. The tiny minority who will be like "I can excuse a mountain of children's corpses but I draw the line at one dead 22-year-old Swede" probably won't be the best activists, either. In any case I doubt that Thunberg getting murdered will significantly hasten the fall of Zionism, rather it'll just be one more in a long string of wretched, flashy displays of Zionism's impunity.

But I guess I'm just thinking about this recent situation with that raging queerphobe brutally killing Jonathan Joss. Because what has that act amounted to? It hasn't been very long, no, but from the reaction thus far I'm not really expecting Joss' murder to lead to any meaningful changes in San Antonio with regard to policing or the quality of life of Queer Natives. All that the reaction to Joss' murder has led to thus far, really just seems to be a whole lot of people swearing in anger, but feeling powerless and dejected to actually change anything in practice.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am feeling powerless and dejected and its eating me up inside. Nothing actually works and the little my org does isn't making enough impact to matter.

[–] Andrzej3K@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I bet it does matter. We're all subject to the tides of history ultimately, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do what good you can in the meantime.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 7 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Quantitative change leading to qualitative change, comrades 🙂‍↕️ every drop we can put into the bucket is a drop more towards it overflowing

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago

It's good to be reminded. It's just hard to see all of this going on while we are picketing a Anti-Abortion Center. I know it's something... I just wish we had a way to directly hinder ICE or make a more direct impact vs. general organizing.