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[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

productivity isn't amazing but as far as I'm aware it's not like it was great under the liberal party either? feels a bit hypocritical to me

[–] Gorgritch_umie_killa@aussie.zone 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Productivity isn't great because of the kinds of jobs the people of this nation increasingly do, and likely will do for the foreseeable future.

And, sorry if this comes across a bit morbid. Until the baby boomers shuffle off this mortal coil in greater numbers, any serious productivity gains in certain industries are overtaken by the medical, care, and other old-age related, usually low productivity, work the country is providing.

Its because of this, that i'm sceptical that 'productivity' is a good measure to be relying on so heavily to gain an honest understanding of the working economy.

Edit: sorry, my point in saying this is, i don't think we should be as hung up on low productivity. No matter who is the Government, theres the same demographic reality. Yhe economic settings and feedback need to be designed to cater for that, that means less of the industrial-output mindset that delivers productivity as a key measure of success.

[–] appetizer 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The constant chase of productivity increases can make sense, but only if you're not trying to increase output at the same rate.

We should be trying to reduce the total amount of work done, while increasing the quality of life of all Australians. If that is the goal then productivity increases are a win for everyone.

Well the industrial model it came out of came with pay rises for the work force for the productivity gains. So its use was acceptable to the workers then.

Not sure that was really a great set up, because a lot of the productivity gains were from implementation of technology, not so much better work in general by the employee base, although that was also the case often, but the technology changes were the larger productivity increases.

What you're suggesting is coming up to what Maynard Keynes imagined as a future. People producing as much or even more, with less time spent on the work. Soyou're in good company.

I don't imagine a system like that will come in this century though. Too much competition between Nations and peoples, not enough machines to do the work.