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[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 97 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Which is such a shortsighted move because as soon as all the news portals close shop Google's scraper will have nothing relevant to summarize and is gonna be shit.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Nothing is stopping the AI summaries from using social media as the primary source

[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can't wait for Google to AI-summarize AI-generated social media posts for artificial Google users created to hike ad prices. It's gonna be wild

[–] Zier@fedia.io 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The robots only want to hang out with the robots.

[–] ckmnstr@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago
[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

It’s going to get wild

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So social media are news outlets now. Good. Glad we cleared that up.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

In the context of my original comment, social media companies like Meta and Reddit have fought tooth and nail to not be considered news networks or news outlets specifically because they don't want to be beholden to the laws that regulate news outlets/networks. Jeopardizing their ineligibility to be sued for what users post (in the US) by going all in on AI LLM's scrapers when those scrapers rely pretty heavily on news networks and other media to stay useful means they'll starve themselves of AI scraped content, and that they'll potentially forfeit what protections against lawsuits they have. It's a no win situation for them to continue to bet on AI which has already largely reached the limit of what it's capable of in current iterations because of the lack of clean organic training data.

[–] smayonak@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a huge disaster in the making. There's probably a game theory model that explains what's happening but damned if i know it. AI is a trap.

At the beginning of LLMs as a consumer tech phase, the big tech companies believed that they would soon generate synthetic data without human labor costs. But synthetic data caused model collapse when used as training data. So they still need humans.

But now their competitors are using scrapers and summarizers and those are expensive so they have to extract more value from search traffic and that means fewer referrals to sites. Fewer referrals to sites reduces original content and leadabto less traffic and training data for their models.

The only two ways out are to create an international regulatory body ornto break up facebook, microspft, and google.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I do respect your optimism, but realistically, I doubt they're forfeiting anything. Fox News broadcasts blatant lies daily. All they had to do was a behind the scenes rebranding.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Fox news isn't legally considered a news outlet. In fact we have literally seen them admit to not being one in court proceedings.

[–] Star@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 22 hours ago

Yes, correct, that is what I just said.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

That’s when Google will buy what ever is left of Condé Nast or Buzzfeed at bottom dollar and start using more AI to shit out “news”.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

they will be using that opportunity to make up the truth they want.