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I get that reality sucks, but that doesn't make your delusions correct :3c

edit: this is specifically about the US, hence the reference to the "liberal experiment" as it was once called. Yes, many other countries are not past the point of no return, but very few are not in grave danger.

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[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 43 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I suggest you all to review your American history because things like this have happened in several occasions and to several degrees.

You should know that Tammany Hall was a thing, and so was the Business Plot, and the Kent State shootings and things like the Battle of Blair Mountain were more common than you would believe.

I understand that to young people, seeing what's happening is scary, but democracy is a continuous battle that we tend to forget it exists but that we ought to fight as the alternative is always worse than anything you might imagine (based on the testimonials of survivors).

EDIT: I added few links with worth reading articles.

“Time is a wheel in constant motion always rolling us along. Who wants to look back on their years and wonder where those years have gone?” ― Lee Ann Womack

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I suggest you all to review your American history because things like this have happened in several occasions and to several degrees.

None of your examples are anywhere near an actual fascist takeover of the United States. This is certainly a battle that needs to be fought, but the way you made your point implies that this will all blow over like the other things you listed when really, there's a good chance that this is it for American democracy (at least for a couple decades) and everyone in this needs to be aware of that.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 21 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I took it as more along the lines of "the end is always near". One of the things people often get wrong about history is the unspoken assumption that any outcomes are guaranteed. We don't know how things will turn out, and neither did people like Smedley Butler. We all have a duty to be active participants in history, and the more we understand the context, the better we can do so.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 9 points 6 days ago

My exact point, thank you.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone -3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's not that the end is near. People will continue to live on after this. This is no apocalypse, only the end of a great many people's lives.

What has ended is the post WWII American empire. Life will go on, but the end of the world as we know it is already here.

You're telling me? I called it four years ago, I'm already out.