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Google has made it much harder for GrapheneOS & CalyxOS to update to Android 16 (lemmy.ca)
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Crossposted from https://slrpnk.net/post/23183334

GrapheneOS statement on Mastodon: https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114661914197695338

Calyx made an official statement on this development here: https://calyxos.org/news/2025/06/11/android-16-plans/

Concerning stuff. Hopefully a workaround or solution is found at some point, but if not, I'm already thinking of how to manage without them.

I can't see myself going back to a standard Android phone, so I suppose worse case scenario, I'd have to settle with LineageOS, or potentially abandon Android altogether and see if I can manage with discrete separate devices to fulfill the same needs, such as:

  • a pocketable mini-Linux PC like a MNT Pocket Reform, which has the ability to use cellular networks. Should be able to text, browse web, and maybe GPS? Alternatively, perhaps the Mecha Comet?
  • Small pocket-able dumb camera
  • MP3 player
  • Dumb-phone kept in a faraday bag when not in use?
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[โ€“] Tenderizer@lemm.ee 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

With regards to Ubuntu Touch. https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114662076331894612

GrapheneOS is a Linux distribution. The desktop Linux software stack has far worse privacy and security. It isn't a viable starting point for us. The Linux kernel is also by far the most problematic portion of the overall system from a security perspective. A fully monolithic kernel is a terrible architecture for security. A vulnerability in any part of it gives full control over the whole thing. It's also entirely written in C with major resistance to many systemic security improvements.

GrapheneOS sure is critical of a lot of entities. Recently Firefox, and in the main thread Fairphone. TBH I don't think they're wrong on any of these fronts. Firefox is broadly a mess in terms of organization, Senior Linux Kernel Devs have opposed Rust for reasons so bad even Linus called them out, and the Fairphone I don't know enough about either way.