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[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's more truth to this than there was to the wmds thing, we know Iran has enriched uranium up to 65% which is way more than you need for nuclesr power and only a bit short of the threshold for bombs.

But it's also entirely Trump and Israels fault in the first place, Iran were complying with Obamas nuclear deal then Israel convinced Trump to stop honouring it so Iran rightly did the same. It's a problem they created in order to have an excuse to attack Iran.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 11 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t believe anything Israel is saying about this.

Israel is full of shit, Netanyahu has been saying Iran is weeks away from a nuclear bomb for literally 30 years.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

That figure is from the IAEA, not Israel. Also it's actually 60% and I misremembered.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 7 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t want anyone to have nuclear weapons but I can see why it’s in Iran’s best interest to acquire them.

United States and Israel are literally arguing that by assassinating scientists and Iranian leaders, that Iran will be more likely to come to the negotiating table.

Maybe that’s why Hamas attacked Israel on October 7th, so Israel would be more likely to negotiate?

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not defending israels illegal actions, just sayings it's at least based on something real unlike the fake wmds

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Israel is the one who gave us the false intelligence about Iraq having wmds. I imagine this is a repeat of that. But we do know that Iran uses uranium for electricity.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

60% enriched is way more than you need to generate electricity.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 3 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

So? Is it really that bad if Iran has nukes? It's not like they'd be the only one's in the region with them. Obviously it would be better if nobody had them, but in a MAD world, it's just deterrence.

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 4 points 11 hours ago

I’m definitely worried about Israel having them. They are committing a genocide and calling it self defense.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, it only takes 1 stupid dictator to use one to fuck over everyone. Like as much as I hate Israel existing as a state, I dint want them to get nuked, and there is a very non-zero chance that they would use them on Israel. Then Trump/bibi might want to retaliate against Iran and at that point fucking anything could happen, the cats out of the bag at that point, Russia might justify there use in ukrain, if Israel survives it could use them on their unfriendly neighbours in """"self defence"""", and things just escalate and escalate until we're all dead.

[–] AppleTea@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ok, but there's also a very non-zero chance Israel presses the button first. Like I said, nobody should have them but since we're not living in that world, the next best thing is deterrence.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ok, but there’s also a very non-zero chance Israel presses the button first.

Yeah, but that's ok because it's not an atrocity when they do it.