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[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Third term? I'd be glad if we came to terms with it by his 6th term.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I am fully prepared for writing off this entire fucking generation.

We're going to enter dictatorship, tyranny, wars without end, mass waves of poverty, degradation of all our comforts and rights, and techno-feudalism and the average American literally- Does. Not. Care.

This is the way the pendulum swings sometimes. A massive group of people have to literally fucking rot in misery for no reason before their kids grow up and start anew with renewed energy and drive. I know this generation certainly doesn't have it. Let's not be fooled by millions of people turning out for celebratory marches on a single weekend. We all know that won't do anything and it will be a miracle if we can muster up enough group momentum to even get that again.

[–] witten@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You may be prepared to give up, but the rest of us aren't. I hope you find your hope before it's too late.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

going on a half-century and seeing everyone make the same stupid mistakes over and over, seeing generations not only not pass down wisdom but actively abandon the next generation over and over, it makes it hard to have hope.

I respect and support anyone trying to make change, I will continue to do what I can in my situation, but I don't have expectations anymore. At a point I'll be retreating to the woods with my loved ones to close out the world and spend more time gardening than scrolling.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago

and seeing everyone make the same stupid mistakes over and over

Propaganda has improved. People don't have communities. It's worse. People have to be more clever than before to compensate.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Who’s the rest of us? As far as I can tell, there isn’t anybody actually doing shit. Well, maybe one or two people. And a misguided and toothless protest isn’t going to achieve anything, no matter how many people show up. I hope you find your rest of us before it’s too late.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The top 10% with an absolute absurd amount of the wealth are the ones that don't care. Their miney, therefore their lifestyle seems safe.

The poorest idiots care deeply but think Trump is on their side and will come down to sweep them up right before it gets really miserable cause he needs to break standards of living for all the rich for them to rise up.

What will get people to finally pivot is unknowable. It will be when there is nothing left to lose, probably. If that ever happens without help from the outside, I dunno. It's not like Germans could Stop Germany from the inside or Japan it's fascism, or any other group.
But I think it's wrong to say the average American doesn't care. The over represented, as always, dont care, which includes out government. The average American agrees deeply we just don't have much power and all disagree on the solution.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The average American agrees deeply we just don’t have much power and all disagree on the solution.

And this has been a manufactured outcome. The average american is a victim of several different competing and collaborating forces who used the KGB playbook to amplify all the worst takes on both sides of every social issue in America. This isn't wild conspiracy talk, it was exposed, we ~~have~~ had a CIA department developed just to combat this tactic. It's been done in other places to great success as well. It's part of the recipe for taking down entire nations.

What happens is when every social issue, no matter how small or benign or silly, gets amplified on social media to absurd levels of contention and confusion and then boosted to national news outlets, it leaves citizens tired, confused and checked out on literally everything. Nobody cares about making their world better because they don't know how to take cues from others anymore. So now when the state delivers messages, people default to agreeing with it. It's why we have people believing the silliest nonsense that the Trump administration pushes out, it's why people elected him and the rest didn't even care enough to vote.

This has all been the product of people with the wealth to hire farms of trolls and influencing agents spread through every level of our society in ways both subtle and overt. If you can break a society you can then reshape it into whatever you want.

[–] Krauerking@lemy.lol 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, pretty depressing huh?

Hopefully effort becomes cool again.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago

Hopefully effort becomes cool again.

This is a succinct line about the state of things.

I talk to a lot of young men who are being pulled right towards people like Andrew Tate and his spawn, because they're confused and angry that they can't get dates and don't have friends, meanwhile they don't talk with any level of passion or pride about anything in their lives, make no effort to take care of themselves or have pride in their clothes, their presentation or their way of speaking, when they're around other guys it's the Sarcasm Olympics, and anyone who talks frankly about their feelings gets mocked... and then these guys will go on to scream how they deserve more from others and how they're victims.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

"We did not know, but even if we could what could we do?"

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The guys so old, I'm not sure hell make it through this term. He's clearly not well, but that's what makes this all crazier. Dems at least knew to kick out their senile old man, how the Republicans are okay with this is wild.

They’re okay with it bc Trump has a cult and many of his cult members are the ones voting the other republicans into office. If they kick out trump, they kick out a bunch of their voter base. Because unfortunately there’s a larger amount of non-cultist republicans that will still vote republican but just not for trump bc “there’s a difference” between the guy doing the bad things and all his best friends “begrudging” helping him do the bad things apparently. Basically they’re delusional about how politics actually work