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The Pennsylvania Democrat recalled his time serving as a Hillary Clinton surrogate in 2016, even after he supported Bernie Sanders in the primary.

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[–] notannpc@lemmy.world 56 points 11 months ago (27 children)

His only redeeming quality is not being Donald Trump. He’s otherwise too fucking old and out of touch with the vast majority of the country like most of our government is.

[–] Zoidberg@lemm.ee 28 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (21 children)

It's almost midnight. You just got out of your job, a restaurant in a somewhat seedy location in old downtown. You leave through the backdoor into an alley and suddenly notice you're not alone. The metal door just closed shut behind you.

You look to your right. There's a guy with a knife. He's looking at you and smiling in a weird manner. He starts walking towards you menacingly.

You look to your left. There's a well known old drunk there. He smells bad and likes to hug people who are passing by. If you go that way, you will be hugged by him.

What do you do?

If you go right, you'll get stabbed and killed. If you do nothing and stay put, you'll get stabbed and killed. If you go left, you will be hugged by the stinky guy. It's disgusting and not ideal, but you'll not be stabbed and survive.

What do you choose?

I see people all the time with the dumbest arguments to not vote. "He's not progressive enough", or "he's part of the system", or even "he didn't do enough for X" (insert your favorite minority here).

It's all true. But the universe is not a perfect or ideal place. Not voting for the imperfect guy gets us a true horrible alternative. It's a choice between bad and awful.

Please vote bad and keep the awful away.

[–] r9seng@lemm.ee -5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Your analogy does not work, as the situation presented requires you to either go to the left or to the right.

In real life, there are many options and gray areas. One of those options is to refuse support to anyone who works against the populace, regardless of their political affiliation.

The world would be much better off watching the US turn far-right and implode than it would be maintaining the status quo.

I would rather watch the US die as a Nazi state than support the lesser of two evils. Remove them as a global superpower. Move out of the way and allow other states to bring better systems of government forward. Maybe something salvageable can be found in the wreckage.

That's the part Fetterman fails to realize as well: Right now is not okay. Continuing the status quo is not okay.

Your analogy also equates the death of the nation with the death of the self, which is not even remotely true either.

Everyone knows not to negotiate with terrorists, until election season.

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago
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