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[–] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago (26 children)

Good thing that at least the genocide stopped immediately, Palestinians now have their own country, the Ukraine war was negotiated on day one, eggs are a buck a dozen and everybody has Healthcare now.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone -2 points 1 week ago (25 children)

Mhm yeah and the whole year when Kamala and Joe could've stopped the genocide they did... sorry remind me what Joe Biden did while he was president and Israel was like "hey were gonna start massacring children and starving entire populations to death" ? Was it that he spreads their propaganda and hoaxes on an international stage for them? Was it that he continuously interfered with the ICC and the UN from doing ANYTHING to stop the genocide? Was it that he gave them all the money and guns and bombs they could ever dream of? Was it that he forced American universities to Crack down on anti zionist protests? Was it that he advocated essentially the same position as Donald Trump and was also very close personal friends with one of the most vile racists who's ever lived Netanyahu?

Remind me, did they stop the Palestinian genocide when they had the presidency? Or did it not literally start and flourish under them, while they kept it safe from any interference and fed the genocidal militias.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

and the whole year when Kamala and Joe could’ve stopped the genocide

What is it that you think the Vice President actually does?

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean I'm not really referring to the specifics of her station presiding over the senate but she was the second most powerful political figure in the Biden administration. Directly involved in the national security council (which would have definitely meant her involvement in decision making with regards to the Palestinian genocide). The Vice President also often provides ideological support to the president in functions of state. She more than had a platform to speak out if she thought what Israel was doing was wrong. She couldn't his overrule his executive authority, but she was not under an obligation to support and agree with his actions in participating in the Palestinian genocide.

Nor was she obligated to campaign on continuing that genocide.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

but she was the second most powerful political figure in the Biden administration.

No. She fucking was not.

Truly, you do not know just how ceremonial the position of VP is.

[–] LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She literally has a seat on the nation security council, meaning she is directly involved in all decision making surrounding US military interests and foreign policy. She sat in the "situation room" and had a direct say in US foreign policy decisions.

She participated in decision making surrounding US participation in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. Its really not disputable. The VP used to be far more a ceremonial position in the 19th century. In the modern era this is not the case.

Its also largely at the discretion of the president how much power and authority the VP has. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were close throughout his presidency. Her opinion and word absolutely was relevant to him.

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