How can I say this in liberal-ese? It's well documented that the majority of people who lived in the Soviet Union want it back. This is no surprise, 7 million people died due to the reintroduction of Capitalism, poverty skyrocketed, food insecurity skyrocketed, wealth disparity skyrocketed, prostitution and human traficking skyrocketed, and their economies were obliterated.

[–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz -5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Where you from?

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Doesn't matter. I have spoken to people from the Soviet Union. I don't personally need to be from the Soviet Union to read on its history, or the devaststion that came from its dissolution, and you saying you or someone you knew was from it doesn't invalidate those I have spoken to and the research I've done. It's lazy, anecdotes matter very little in the face of hard metrics and facts.

[+] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz -6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I wasn't born in the Soviet union, but I have asked lots of more older people, all were negative, the best thing they said was that they built schools... and those were mostly the ones they destroyed, and have you noticed a pattern in .ml users which support what the Soviet union most if not all of them didn't experience it or live in a place where it was you just glaze china, Russia and etc.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 weeks ago

Cool, as I said I have spoken to people who look fondly upon it, as well as other Socialist systems. Plus, I have done a great deal of research on these systems beyond simple anecdotes. Marxists tend to support Socialist countries like the USSR, and I'm a Marxist-Leninist. I don't just "glaze" Socialist countries, I contextualize them and give reasons why I support them, and why I want to create a system similar to them in my country.

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I've asked many people who were born in the USSR, and I think about half of them feel that the shit we’ve had since then is way worse.

It wasn't perfect by any means, but I think we should have improved it with reforms instead of splitting into poor countries and giving all the power to oligarchs.

[–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What country maybe it is a local thing?

[–] Shatur@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Ukraine. Of course, it could just be a local thing since it depends on your social circle. But the things my parents told me make total sense to me.

[–] cepelinas@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 weeks ago

Lithuania.