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On X11 and the Fascists Maggots (blogs.gnome.org)

submitted 2 weeks ago by Mihies@programming.dev to c/linux@programming.dev

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This is a truly WTF moment about messed up responses to X11 session removal in Gnome.

2 weeks ago I published a blogpost about the upcoming plans of GNOME 49 and the eventual removal of the X11 session. Since then, instead of looking at feedback, bugs and issues related to the topic, we all collectively had to deal with the following, and I am not exaggerating one bit:

Fascists and Nazis
Wild Conspiracy Theories that make Qanon jealous
“Concerned” Trolling about the Accessibility of the Wayland session
A culture war where Wayland is Gay, and X11 is the glorious past they stole from you

In my wildest dreams I could have never made this shit up. You all need mandatory supervised access to the Internet from now on.

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (15 children)

Gnome programs, and Gnome itself, is pretty great.

You don't have to shit on a project just because you don't use their stuff or like something else.

[–] VinesNFluff@pawb.social 17 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (14 children)

Gnome in general is undeniably made competently by competent and talented people. If it wasn't, it would break a lot more.

Those competent and talented people also managed to make extremely bad choices at every turn, and seem ideologically opposed to the idea of customization, resulting in an environment that is fundamentally painful to use unless you very specifically fit the box of what they expect users to be like.

It sort of feels like an Apple product, in that sense. Very well-made, but god forbid you don't want to do things exactly as they say you should

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

FFS, what is with this toxicity?

They aren't bad choices. They are choices that you don't like, but plenty of others do.

It sort of feels like an Apple product, in that sense. Very well-made, but god forbid you don't want to do things exactly as they say you should

No it doesn't, because Gnome is completely customisable, and the devs encourage that through the extensions platform.

If you don't like Gnome, that's ok. You don't need to moan about it online and say it's shit. I don't like mushrooms. I don't moan about it, I don't say meals are bad for including them, and I don't tell people they're wrong for liking them.

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